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Because their financial gains would be even lower. From a business point-of-view, Nintendo going third party right now would be the worse thing they could do. The company would have massive lay-offs and would lose a lot of its market value.

What would be the better? Team up with another big eletronics company for the next console, launch some games for the mobile market, and explore its franchises on other media, like movies, tv, comics etc



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Want one reason? They have gone over 20 years in the gaming business and have never needed it.



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Paatar said:

Want one reason? They have gone over 30 years in the gaming business and have never needed it.


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DerNebel said:
WolfpackN64 said:
Give me one good reason Sony and Microsoft shouldn't go third party?

Because both Sony and MS make a huge chunk of their gaming money through third party royalties.

Based on the table a few pages back that doesn't seem to help their gaming divisions much. Im shocked that it showed that sony has yet to make an overall profit on their gaming division in 20 years, microsoft is not suprising at all though considering how much they cut to push their consoles.

Im assuming that tables legit of course.



padib said:

1. Free online

2. Good console prices

3. Cool new hardware interfaces

4. A great platform for games I like if developers would understand how to make money the Nintendo way.

5. Great management for a hardware manufacturer, learns lessons and is reasonable.

6. Not scared to go against the current.

7. Does not bend to 3rd parties

1. Okay that's fair, though judging by the success of PS+ and Gold most consumers don't seem to mind paying for online.

2. Arguable. The WiiU is $50 cheaper than the XBO and $100 cheaper than PS4. And that's not even counting Black Friday prices where you could get an XBO for $330 with gift cards. For the difference in hardware the price advantage doesn't help much. 

3. Disagree completely.

4. A lot of Nintendo's own published games like Wonderful 101 and Donkey Kong aren't doing that great. 

5. If that was true then Nintendo would have ditched region locking a long time ago. They're not doing a good job learning from their mistakes.

6. It's not exactly helping.

7. This their biggest issue right now. 



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Fusioncode said:
padib said:

1. Free online

2. Good console prices

3. Cool new hardware interfaces

4. A great platform for games I like if developers would understand how to make money the Nintendo way.

5. Great management for a hardware manufacturer, learns lessons and is reasonable.

6. Not scared to go against the current.

7. Does not bend to 3rd parties

1. Okay that's fair, though judging by the success of PS+ and Gold most consumers don't seem to mind paying for online.

2. Arguable. The WiiU is $50 cheaper than the XBO and $100 cheaper than PS4. And that's not even counting Black Friday prices where you could get an XBO for $330 with gift cards. For the difference in hardware the price advantage doesn't help much. 

3. Disagree completely.

4. A lot of Nintendo's own published games like Wonderful 101 and Donkey Kong aren't doing that great. 

5. If that was true then Nintendo would have ditched region locking a long time ago. They're not doing a good job learning from their mistakes.

6. It's not exactly helping.

7. This their biggest issue right now. 

Here's the thing about games like Donkey Kong Country or The Wonderful 101. These games would not have done better on any other console. If anything, they would have done worse.



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Blob said:
DerNebel said:
WolfpackN64 said:
Give me one good reason Sony and Microsoft shouldn't go third party?

Because both Sony and MS make a huge chunk of their gaming money through third party royalties.

Based on the table a few pages back that doesn't seem to help their gaming divisions much. Im shocked that it showed that sony has yet to make an overall profit on their gaming division in 20 years, microsoft is not suprising at all though considering how much they cut to push their consoles.

Im assuming that tables legit of course.


I'm not sure if the table is. Microsoft definitely haven't made anything out of gaming yet the original Xbox sank them to the tune of 4bn? Then the $1bn from RROD etc will have hampered the printing money capabilities of the 360 and they're now selling the Xbox One at a pretty hefty loss. However it gives them market presence etc which were vital in the transitional period computers/technology have been in.

Sony made an absolute fortune from the PS1 and PS2 (SCEI was Sony's most profitable division and I think also had the highest revenue of any division at some points) however the PS3 ate into some of that. PS4 currently looks on track to be the third system to bring in a good chunk of cash.



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Fusioncode said:

Yep, I just want one reason that Nintendo going 3rd party would not benefit the entire industry. Think about it, more people get to enjoy great games, Nintendo's developers don't have to be stuck working on weaker hardware, they don't have to rack their brains to figure what to do with the gamepad, they can have a better online infrastructure, Nintendo themselves get to make more money because they're not making losses from the WiiU anymore. I mean let's face it, people buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games. I honestly don't think Nintendo makes very good hardware. Most of their systems feel kind of cheap.

The hard truth is that without 3rd party support Nintendo can't compete in the console space anymore, and I don't see them getting publishers back on board. Some will label me a Nintendo hater, but that isn't entirely true. I just don't see any logical reason Nintendo going 3rd party wouldn't benefit everyone.

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Going 3rd party is actually a high risk move for Nintendo and in no way does it mean they will make MORE money.  It's possibly benefits Xbox and Playstation users in the short term (that wouldnt't have bought a Nintendo system), but could hurt everyone in the long term if Nintendo crashes and burns.

Nintendo makes money on HW.  Plain and simple.  You don't need another reason than that.  Do you really think that Nintendo wouldn't have taken what they perceive to be a way to make more money if they felt it would have worked long term?

This is unlike Sony and MS, who typically use HW as a "loss-leader" in order to gain market share.

 

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Also, aside from the graphics chip insdie, the Wii U feels the MOST premium out of all the consoles to me in terms of build quality and look.  Maybe it's the controller w/ screen, but everytime I grab the controller I feel like I am holding something premium / special that my Xbox One just doesn't have. 

 

I do agee that more 3rd part support could never hurt.



WolfpackN64 said:
Give me one good reason Sony and Microsoft shouldn't go third party?


Powerful and cheap hardware.



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