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manuelogando40 on 23 December 2014

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EricFabian on 23 December 2014

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Libi on 23 December 2014

Hello, i know Portugal is a very small part of Europe, but i can tell you this:

I work in the biggest electronic retailer in Portugal " worten" . (google it), and i saw the sales of the last weekend of both ps4 and xbone and let me say that the ps4 sold more units in those 2 days than xbone since it launch here. Xbone only have a chance in the UK. Outside UK xbone its dead.



JustBeingReal on 23 December 2014
Nathan13 said:
man-bear-pig said:

Next year the Xbox One will outsell the PS4 in Europe, and here's why:

1.) In January Microsoft are releasing details about Windows 10 and it's compatibility with Xbox and if early reviews are anything to go by then Windows 10 will be up there with Windows 7 in terms of popularity. These new Windows 10 users are going to want to get a console which runs Windows 10 in order to be familiar with one unified user interface and the associated benefits. This will also be greatly beneficial to Windows Phone but that's for another prediction thread entirely...

2.) Halo 5. The past 2 mainline Halos have both sold well over 2m copies in Europe and I see no reason why Halo 5 can't do the same and even exceed these given how positive the early multiplayer reviews are. With the decline of Call of Duty there is room for a Halo resurgence and I believe Halo 5 is the game to do it.

3.) I believe that after seeing how positive the reaction in the USA has been to their price cut, they'll try to lower their prices in Europe to be more competitive with the PS4 as it's currently significantly cheaper in most places. This will boost sales significantly.

4.) Forza. If reviews are anything to go by (which they are) then Forza is the best racing game hands down. As we all know Europe has a strong affinity for racing games and Xbox One is the place to be for these racing fans imo. Xbox One owners will get a pretty much guaranteed annual Forza game whereas PS4 owners will have to wait 5 or so years between Gran Turismo releases and that's too long for a lot of people. I can see a lot of the European PS4 early adopters jumping ship to Xbox One for this very reason.

5.) The decline of Nintendo. The Wii captured the casual gamer market in a big way last gen, and evidently these Wii owners arent transitioning to the Wii U this gen. This leaves the Xbox One as the go-to console for casual gamers this gen imo, as well as all the other gamers it captured last gen.

6.) Money. Nadella (new M$ CEO) has shown how much he values Xbox as an essential part of Microsoft by the money he's been spending recently to put Xbox back on track. Microsoft have ~$80bn in cash and they don't like being second in anything they do...go hard or go home. And they're going hard. Expect some huge money-hatted exclusives at E3 2015 and subsequent PS4 buyers remorse.

The main advantage the PS4 has in Europe in 2015 is the current userbase. As of the W.E. 6th December the PS4 currently sits at 6,809,438 units and the Xbox One is at 2,571,751 units, meaning the gap is 4,237,687. This gap will probably be around 5m by years end due to Sony's lower pricing in Europe. This 5m advantage will mean that the friends of PS4 owners may be swaying towards the PS4 instead of the Xbox One in order to play with their friends but I don't believe this will be enough to counter-act the points I've listed in favour of the Xbox One.

Thoughts? I'll bump this thread when I'm right. In the meantime call me crazy etc.

1) Gamers don't care about Windows 10, as they don't care about any OS. They do care about a brand of trust, games, competitive price, and Playstation already proved since PSX to be the most wanted Console in Europe. 2014 was a bloodbath for X1, 2015 will be even worst.

Exactly, unless you're a PC gamer, but Sony makes their updates to their OS anyway, so Sony can only improve in OS features and it's streamlined nature can only get better as time goes on.

The PSX comment is so true, so many new games were announced, Sony has so much more coming exclusive or semi-exclusive for PS4 in 2015, Microsoft has basically sat back and done nothing to combat all of Sony's announcements.

2) Halo 5 will be most probably released in Nov 2015, and can't help VS the the entire PS4 line up all along the whole 2015. Also see point 1)

Most of the Halo audience also already has an Xbox One, because they're the game's die hard fans. MCC will also have cannibalized some of the impact for Halo 5 to move hardware.

3) In Germany there are already fantastic deals for X1, but PS4 continues to crush it every week since launch. This happens in all Europe apart from UK, where there's a good competition.   And MS themselves do not care that much about Europe(apart from UK).

Yep, PS4 regularly sells more than double the number of units in Europe than XB1 does, with more games exclusive to the platform incoming there's no reason to think that it can logically not drive sales in the most dominant area even higher.

4) Forza is not so popular in Europe, and won't move much units. There are games like Fifa which will move so much more consoles on PS4 than Forza and Fifa combined for X1.  mark my words.

Yep, it's a franchise that regular doesn't even touch 6 million in sales, not on 360's install base and the Forza effect has already happened with Horizon 2 and Forza 5.

5) Many more gamers already went and are going to PS4(360 and Wii gamers), compared to the ones who went and are going to XOne. Check the selling numbers in Europe for both PS4 and X1.

Very true, PS4 will definitely dominate even harder in Europe next year.

6) This is why MS get crushed in Europe every time by the PS2, PS3(even if it was released 16 months after 360 at a very expensive price), and by PS4 now. Because MS don't like being second in anything they do...

So right, Microsoft aren't goint to be happy to keep sinking money into XBox, they won't try to consume what little potential income they're making from Xbox right now by shelling out too much, especially considering they've lost 3rd party sales this generation and their own exclusives aren't selling that great.

Sony on the other hand can use the extra sales they're getting from 3rd party to support more exclusives, which will only drive the sales of the platform up even harder, it's a snowball effect and momentum just keeps building.

What I think ?  You said all by yourself at the end of your post.   Thanks for the laugh.


See bolded comments, all agreeing really.

Europe will be even more Sony territory next year, America will also, basically global domination will just continue and Sony doesn't really have to do a lot, besides continue to announce the sort of awesome games they have been throughout this year. Usually the market leader holds back, but Sony just keeps playing like they're the under dog this gen.

I can't wait to see what they announce next year, it's going to be crazy!



Aeolus451 on 23 December 2014

Grasping at straws, huh? It lost the console war already and it's because of their arrogance. I don't know how they thought no used games and online only was a good idea.

 

On the off chance this might be a joke thread, here's something.

 

 

 



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TheGoldenBoy on 23 December 2014

This is going to get necro-bumped a lot in 2015.



gooch_destroyer on 23 December 2014
TheGoldenBoy said:
This is going to get necro-bumped a lot in 2015.


I can't wait.



BHR-3 on 23 December 2014

its sad that all my predictions that turn out to be 100 percent true and are made early get no posts but something like this is almost at 200 already

this has no chance of happening it wont pass it in 2015 and it wont sell more than the ps4 when only counting 2015 not even in US

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=186376&page=1
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=193368&page=1
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=192674&page=1



                                                             

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thedawghousev2 on 23 December 2014
BHR-3 said:
its sad that all my predictions that turn out to be 100 percent true and are made early get no posts but something like this is almost at 200 already

this has no chance of happening it wont pass it in 2015 and it wont sell more than the ps4 when only counting 2015 not even in US

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=186376&page=1
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=193368&page=1
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=192674&page=1


the difference is that your threads have polls, which doesn't force people who look at your thread to comment. it doesn't help that this thread in particular has an EXTREMELY unrealistic, almost impossible prediction that deserves to be laughed at for years to come.



thismeintiel on 23 December 2014
Barkley said:
Here's my prediction, the PS4 will outsell the XBO in Europe in 2015 by over 2 million units, not even a bold prediction.

Nope, that's actually lowballing it.  The PS4 outsold it this year by over 4 million (probably close to 5 million when all the numbers are in.)  I wouldn't be surprised if it outsells it by 6-7 million next year with the $50-$100 pricecut coming.