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benji232 said:
Lol at all these people who keep saying "No new Nintendo console/handheld before 2017-2018". I'm not sure on which planet you guys are living on, but Nintendo hardware sales are at historical lows. And it's only going to go DOWNWARDS from this point moving forward. How can Nintendo even afford to wait another 3 years on 2 systems that are bombing in the west currently? And yes, 3DS is doing very poorly in the west. It's barely going to end up reaching N64 numbers in the US (which is very bad for a Nintendo handheld, it's about HALF of what the WORST SELLING Nintendo handheld sold in the US) and it's doing about equally poorly in Europe for a Nintendo handheld. As for wiiU, I don't even need to explain why it's a bomb worldwide.


Whats your opinion on the Vita



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Platform makers always work on new hardware, I don't see what's surprising here



If they don't make it a nice step above MicroSony's current consoles, they are fools.



Hiku said:

Sony and MS were in a completely different situation though. Their consoles had been out for 7 and 8 years respectively by the time their new consoles came out. It didn't feel like they were abandoning the PS3 and 360. People had years to prepare for the expected transition. On top of that, Sony have a reputation for still supporting their old consoles for a long time. If Nintendo launch at end of 2016, their console will only have had a lifespan of 4 years, leaving many surprised people with little time to prepare for the transition. Especially considering how few of them bought the console during its first year.
Moreover, people know what to expect from Sony and MS's new consoles, where's Nintendo often need to explain their vision due to wanting to be different.
'Have to' isn't meant literally of course, as they could announce it 1 day before its release if they so chose. But Nintendo have so far always announced their home consoles several years in advance. 3 years for N64. 2.5 years for Gamecube. 2.5 years for Wii. (1.5 years from when it was first shown).
If they were to do what Sony and MS did now, I'd be surprised, as I think they need more time to build up the trust and interest of the consumers. If they just throw a new console out on the market so soon after the announcement, I think it would send the wrong message, and would feel like they just abandoned the Wii U, and might do the same to their next console.


Four years is plenty of time for a console. It's not like the Wii was supported for much more than that. There's no consumer trust to build up. The Wii U is not a popular system. There is very little consumer to offend and much more to satisfy, and frankly, I don't think people would be nearly as offended as they are saying now. There was a minor outrage at the anouncement of the N3DS, then people got over it. The same would happen here. When the Wii is four years old, it won't feel new anymore.

It won't feel like it's being abandoned, and like I said, it's very likely that many of the games will be available on both platforms anyway. Just like no iphone 5S user was suddenly offended when the iphone 6 came out, Nintendo has been building the foundation to be able to do just that with the Wii U's successor. They've already said that they're using the Wii U as an architectural foundation for their next gen hardware. When that new Metroid game or whatever comes out as a launch title for the successor, you better bet your bottom dollar that there will be a Wii U version of the game as well, only it's the same game. There would be no separate disks. Putting the disk in the Wii U would play the Wii U version, and doing the same for the successor would play that version. Saves are in the cloud, so you're progress is kept through out the transition. 

Again, a firmware patch would match the Wii U's OS with the new console. Even if you didn't upgrade to the new console at it's launch, you'd feel like you already had the new console in some capacity, just like what happened with iOS 7. The hardware upgrade would be painless. Upgrade hardware whenever you want and keep everything you had before. You'd just enjoy the new tweaks and exclusives. More powerful hardware. Much smaller, sleaker gamepad, more premium quality gamepad. 



''Miyamoto: Since we first created Mario, people have compared him to Mickey Mouse. I’ve always said Mickey Mouse evolved with each evolution in animation. You saw Mickey Mouse each step of the way. From early on, I wanted Mario to be that character in the digital world, so that with each digital evolution, he was there to usher in the next era. I think that maybe when we release the next hardware system, you can look forward to seeing Mario take on a new role or in a new game.''

What I wanted to hear. Mario for the Next Hardware will be a completely new game. Exactly what I was talking about in a couple of Thread. A true next gen Mario.

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Mario is perhaps one of the most iconic characters in video game history and is certainly a character that has evolved as time and technology progressed. However the way Miyamoto described this pace seems to suggest that the most significant evolutionary change is yet to come. The prospect of which should make Nintendo fans very excited.''

Finally ! Nintendo has listened to me !
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With relation to the new gaming console itself. When the subject of next generation hardware was directly brought up, Miyamoto wasn’t shy to confirm that Nintendo is currently working on the next major iteration.
AP: I know you’re working on “Star Fox,” but beyond that, will you continue to design games for the Wii U, or are you already thinking about new hardware?
Miyamoto: We’re focused on providing a robust line-up of Wii U software for next year. It seems like we’ve managed to do that this year and people are very happy with what we’ve done on Wii U. For the time being, our focus is on the Wii U hardware, but Nintendo as a whole has groups working on ideas for new hardware systems. While we’re busy working on software for the Wii U, we have production lines that are working on ideas for what the next system might be.
There you have it folks, a new generation of gaming hardware from Nintendo is coming sooner than one might have thought. And yet again it’s powered by AMD, not surprisingly so. Hopefully the new hardware will serve to at least bring Nintendo’s performance and graphics capability to parity with Sony and Microsoft. A device that can run all of the non-exclusive gaming titles in addition to Nintendo’s exclusives certainly sounds like an extraordinarily attractive option.''

I believe the Next Nintendo Console will be released in Nov 2016/2017, not later.
''Hopefully the new hardware will serve to at least bring Nintendo’s performance and graphics capability to parity with Sony and Microsoft.'' ---> is it a joke ? :) By the time the Nintendo Console will be available, it will be at least 2-3 times as powerful as X1, at least. I can place a bet with everybody.



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vivster said:
bananaking21 said:
probably their next handheld.

If they're going with AMD it's no handheld.


Do not be so hasty vivster!

http://www.nintendolife.com/forums/3ds/3ds_successor_most_likely_to_use_amd_tech_amd_exec_hinting_at_a_deal



I have a feeling that they are talking about Nintendo Fusion system! I wonder when will Nintendo announce it if that's the case!



                
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Goremichel said:
I hope the release is after 2019


yes



thismeintiel said:

I expect the next Nintendo console to be announced in 2016 and release in 2017, around 5 years after the Wii U launched. I expect them to want to move onto to next gen sooner than Sony, and possibly MS, which will probably release the PS5 in 2019 or 2020.  (Edit: After thinking about it,  2019 seems more reasonable.  This way they could help promote it with a celebration of 25 Years of Playstation.)

Also, if Nintendo is going to go the cheap route, again, and aim for HW slightly more powerful than the PS4, then they should expect another repeat of this gen. Core gamers, for the most part, are not looking for slightly better graphics with a gimmicky controller. They are going to want a PS5, which will probably be ~4x-6x more powerful than the PS4 and will probably completely blur the line between cinematic and in game graphics.


That is what i call an amazing claim. Have you noticed how few games we get today compared to last gen? I can imagine having 5 games a year. You should give it some thought. There are cheaper games making alot of money. Before you take next-gen for granted perhaps you should ponder on how viable the AAA game model becomes with the increase in specs.

Also, cinematics will always look better because theres more resources available. Unless the developer is lazy. Naughty dog themselves said that recently.



They don't need to rush with the new console. Whenever they release it, it will still be irrelevant among most users and will not attract developers either. Sure, I understand the need from Nintendo fans to play Mario Kart 9, Zelda 14 and Smash Bros 12, but the general population has moved on.
People prefer to play mature games available on PS4/XOne, while casuals that bough 100 million hand-waving Sports/Fit remotes have moved onto Candy Crush and other mobile games and will never again buy a $300 dust collector.
If WiiU is struggling to reach 10 million in more than 2 years, its successor would struggle to sell 10 million in 5 years.

Nintendo needs to ride WiiU out for another 4-5 years, concentrate on handhelds and port Mario and Donkey Kong to smartphones.