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Forums - Politics Discussion - 5 Legal Rights Women Have That Men Don’t (primarily USA focused)

badgenome said:
Nicklesbe said:
I'm sorry but this is a load of crap. None of these are actually true. Woman have been added to the draft since they were allowed to be full members of the military.

Nope. Women are exempted from registering with Selective Service.

Here in Mexico women are not required to serve the military but men are and in all the tramits a men require the liberation of the military service to even make the tramit so Im all in for equality in that



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sc94597 said:

Question: if a mother puts her kid up for adoption and the father decides he wants to take care of the kid, is she then obligated to pay child support if he takes her to domestics? If so they are in the same situation. Both parents must agree for adoption to take place, and neither parent is responsible for child support. However, if one parent wants to put the child up for adoption and the other wants to keep the child then the other parent who initially wanted to give up their obligation over the child is responsible for child support, regardless of sex.

 

What bothers me is when a parent has no visitation rights and yet is still supposedly obligated to pay child support. In that case it isn't about an absentee parent. They want to be there for their kid and be a part of their life. However, they are not allowed to be there and yet still are sucked dry. I've seen this with a friend of my mothers who lost all of her kids because of marijuana. She is not allowed to visit her son (who lives with his grandparents) but still is responsible for paying child support to her son. It is a shame, because she is a good person who made mistakes in her life,and all she wants to do is be able to see her son.

Dont know in US but in France, if the father decides he wants to take care of the child while the mother is under X, he cant ask her to pay for the child because she is not related anymore to him legally.

Equality is a strange concept here.



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Jlaff said:
sc94597 said:
Mr Khan said:
sc94597 said:
Mr Khan said:

That has more to do with the idiocy of the War on Drugs than problems with parental rights' law.

Lack of visitation rights but obligation to pay is due to spouses who posed a danger of abuse to their spouse/children, and so could not "safely" be around them. Should they be rewarded for being deemed a danger by not having to pay, while more upstanding divorcees are stuck with the burden of child support?

These laws might be designed for those particular people, but they harm others as well. It's much like the death penalty in my opinion. Death penalty laws are designed for serial murders (and other people on their level) but they harm other people as well, and that is why I oppose them. I think if somebody is so dangerous that they can't see their child under supervised visits then the best bet is to remove them from your life entirely. It isn't rewarding them.

I mean, if you want those people to become a burden of the state when the missing spouse could hypothetically provide them full support. Child support is about saving children and single parents from poverty. So that is what must be weighed against the infringement of rights towards the departed spouse.

Full support usually sums up to $100 a week. It's nothing compared to the cost of raising a child. I'd rather have people be able to have more impaactful interactions with their kids than child support. I'm thinking of the people who are wronged here and how their kids development would benefit from them being in their life. That is not monetary. 

edit: More often than not these type of parents don't pay child support because they are in jail all their lives. From child support non-payment or something else. So no money is found anyway. 

So assuming you agree both parents should contribute, you think it costs in the neighbourhood of $900 a month to raise a kid (excluding all the extra curricular, day care or any other extraordinary expense that would be tacked on as additional payment over and above basic child support)? 

 

Also, my experience may be with Canadian support, but there is a very narrow range of income that would require support at that amount. And that would be when making in the neighbourhood of $40k a year. 

It depends on a plethora of factors, most importantly cost of living. Where I'm from cost of living is ow and $900 a month would be enough for one child. In the city, that isn't true.  But that isn't my point. Having both parents in your life will do so much more to get you out of poverty than getting $400/month, and only maybe if your shitty parent isn't in jail and if the state is garnishing his/her wages, and if he/she doesn't get it reduced. So rather than focus on getting money out of that small minority of rocks, we should focus on having both parents involved in their children's lives. And that means removing barriers which prevent willing non-custodial parents from seeing their children. 



Aerys said:
sc94597 said:

Question: if a mother puts her kid up for adoption and the father decides he wants to take care of the kid, is she then obligated to pay child support if he takes her to domestics? If so they are in the same situation. Both parents must agree for adoption to take place, and neither parent is responsible for child support. However, if one parent wants to put the child up for adoption and the other wants to keep the child then the other parent who initially wanted to give up their obligation over the child is responsible for child support, regardless of sex.

 

What bothers me is when a parent has no visitation rights and yet is still supposedly obligated to pay child support. In that case it isn't about an absentee parent. They want to be there for their kid and be a part of their life. However, they are not allowed to be there and yet still are sucked dry. I've seen this with a friend of my mothers who lost all of her kids because of marijuana. She is not allowed to visit her son (who lives with his grandparents) but still is responsible for paying child support to her son. It is a shame, because she is a good person who made mistakes in her life,and all she wants to do is be able to see her son.

Dont know in US but in France, if the father decides he wants to take care of the child while the mother is under X, he cant ask her to pay for the child because she is not related anymore to him legally.

Equality is a strange concept here.

That is fucked up, and represents inequality in my opinion. Why are women so special that they don't need to take care of the child they help create, but men must regardless? 



sc94597 said:
Aerys said:
sc94597 said:

Question: if a mother puts her kid up for adoption and the father decides he wants to take care of the kid, is she then obligated to pay child support if he takes her to domestics? If so they are in the same situation. Both parents must agree for adoption to take place, and neither parent is responsible for child support. However, if one parent wants to put the child up for adoption and the other wants to keep the child then the other parent who initially wanted to give up their obligation over the child is responsible for child support, regardless of sex.

 

What bothers me is when a parent has no visitation rights and yet is still supposedly obligated to pay child support. In that case it isn't about an absentee parent. They want to be there for their kid and be a part of their life. However, they are not allowed to be there and yet still are sucked dry. I've seen this with a friend of my mothers who lost all of her kids because of marijuana. She is not allowed to visit her son (who lives with his grandparents) but still is responsible for paying child support to her son. It is a shame, because she is a good person who made mistakes in her life,and all she wants to do is be able to see her son.

Dont know in US but in France, if the father decides he wants to take care of the child while the mother is under X, he cant ask her to pay for the child because she is not related anymore to him legally.

Equality is a strange concept here.

That is fucked up, and represents inequality in my opinion. Why are women so special that they don't need to take care of the child they help create, but men must regardless?

There is no social movement as big as feminism, so that creates inequality, that's one of the bad things with feminism and any other one sided movement..



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Funny people.

In Brazil all men and only men are demanded to serve (and everyone is drafted unless relinquished due to overdraft). Without it besides risking jail time, you can't apply for university, public jobs (and several private ones), have limited access to bank financing, etc. Same for voting (but for this all genders are mandated).

By brazilian law rape is forced penetration of the vagina of a moral woman. So men can't ever be raped, anal sex don't count, whores and skanks can't be either. For all of them it would be forced sex or sexual assault, for which a man would have a hard time to plead against a woman based on strenght and men being able to restrain erection.

On child support. Default to mother unless she relinquish or is proven unfit. Custodial rights for the father is usually two weekend per month. Alymony around 30% the wage. Divorce money depends on full pre-nupcial total separation (which a woman could revert saying she didn't know she was abidicating from anything registered as the husband asset) partial (what is aquired prior to marriage is exempt of division) and universal (anything in the name of any party is halfly divided, even heritage). At rates like 9:1 after divorce the woman claim unable to sustain herself besides alymony she also gets pension/allowance from men based on being the house carer, while man rarely gets it.

On the abortion, which I'm against the pratice but see why the law must allow cases. If your law gives the woman the right to be exempt of motherhood the father should have the same right you can't rule it out by biased claiming men are monster and would run from parenthood while saying woman would only do that in extreme cases, that is unfair threatment. But since you will go to the "it's her body", ok then man can't demand abortion so after born rights are equal right? So why can't the father choose to kill the baby?

All the threat the people unfairly to reach fairness is a pursuit to special rights.

Another example from Brazil... Mother leaves are 4-6 months, father is 5 days. Even though women lives 5years more than men on average in here they can retire 5 years earlier.

In fact the law is sexist and patriarcal most of times in favour of women even if based on the notion that they are weaker and less inteligent. Which biologically (for proof looks on olympiques in physical and nobel in intelect) they are but we want to say they are equal only when it fits ones agenda.

Besides I'm married to a wonderfull woman that also fells disgusted with the unfair privileges of woman, and none would ever leave our child unatended or in divorCE suck the other dry.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Also if someone is so shit that he can't be allowed to be close to child ex-conjuge I wouldn't want any Money and the person should be in jail, or we should accept any idioticity as being unsafe?

And on alimony... A brazil famous that got pregnant of Mike Jagger was able to suck more than 40k month on alimony, for costs like rent 15k/month.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Ka-pie... Women Life is more important than men on these situations because 10 women for 1 men can populate a place. 10 men for 1 woman would lead to death.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."