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Jesus Christ is the risen Lord! 229 30.78%
 
Muhammad is the prophet of Allah! 71 9.54%
 
Happy late Diwali! 7 0.94%
 
I am Atheist or Agnostic. 325 43.68%
 
Buddha Buddha he's the m... 10 1.34%
 
Sikhism! 3 0.40%
 
I am a Jew, and Jesus ain't the Messiah! 5 0.67%
 
Wicca! 10 1.34%
 
SATAN 39 5.24%
 
Something else (Specify) 44 5.91%
 
Total:743
DJEVOLVE on 20 December 2014

Also I want to point out, this is why I have issue with organized relgion and a big reason why I am no longer a Christian, also the amount of evidence against it. If some one has a different belief system or is just asking for proof, it would inquire that they are not normal, different and there for looked down upon.

Christians as many religions is a fear based system, this also projects out onto other people.  Meaning if people don't believe as you do, they are now considered condemned, evil, outcast or even  heretics. This is why religion has killed more people in history then any other organization or group. These numbers go into the billions.

I judge people on their actions and manner. I don't care what religion you come from. however the overwhelming proof against it is just to much for me to stomach.  Science has moved to a point that organized religions telling what god wants, is doing, is saying, are that of ancient misunderstanding about the universe and it's reason.

This does not rule out a after live, I'm just sure no one has a book or proof of any propaganda they are pushing. I will also note that religion is constantly being pushed into our laws, On our money, in our pledge of allegiance. This is all somewhat new or in the last 100 years. This has to stop, Religion put us into the dark ages, demonized knowledge as evil and oppressed millions.

If you would like to look at a page that catalogs Violence, Contradictions, sexism in the bible.

http://bibviz.com/

 

I'm not trying to be offensive, however this is always a touchy subject. I also say Merry Christmas but also know it is really a Pagan Holiday.  The Roman Empire celebrated Saturnalia. The Christian Church Adopted the Pagan Holiday to cool tensions, also because constatine converted to christanity.  



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Troll_Whisperer on 20 December 2014

Non-religious of the "don't give a fuck" type. My parents are not religious either, and neither are my friends. Really, only my grandmother is (catholic), and the one friend who's a muslim. But I've never seen them practice it or talk about it, so... for me religion is a non-factor and I don't think I've ever had a religious debate in real life.



No troll is too much for me to handle. I rehabilitate trolls, I train people. I am the Troll Whisperer.

Busted on 20 December 2014
tiffac said:
Busted said:

You either believe in the writings or don't

''And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.'' 9:5

That ''difference'' you claim is just people who believe and people who ''believe'' because they were taught to/simply it was what they grew up with, but deep in their heart they don't really care

I voted others, im apatheist which is not the same as atheism, but people never listen to me and always get it mixed so whatevs

So your saying if a religious person wants to coexist with a none believer they are not a believer in their own faith at all because they don't follow the written text as is?

Exactly



tiffac on 20 December 2014
Busted said:
tiffac said:
Busted said:

You either believe in the writings or don't

''And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.'' 9:5

That ''difference'' you claim is just people who believe and people who ''believe'' because they were taught to/simply it was what they grew up with, but deep in their heart they don't really care

I voted others, im apatheist which is not the same as atheism, but people never listen to me and always get it mixed so whatevs

So your saying if a religious person wants to coexist with a none believer they are not a believer in their own faith at all because they don't follow the written text as is?

Exactly

Lol! Okay I just wanted to clear that out.



Busted on 20 December 2014
tiffac said:
Busted said:
tiffac said:
Busted said:

You either believe in the writings or don't

''And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.'' 9:5

That ''difference'' you claim is just people who believe and people who ''believe'' because they were taught to/simply it was what they grew up with, but deep in their heart they don't really care

I voted others, im apatheist which is not the same as atheism, but people never listen to me and always get it mixed so whatevs

So your saying if a religious person wants to coexist with a none believer they are not a believer in their own faith at all because they don't follow the written text as is?

Exactly

Lol! Okay I just wanted to clear that out.

No problem



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DJEVOLVE on 20 December 2014

Also I would like to add USA is not a Christian nation, it is a nation for everyone and their beliefs. This is Fox news propaganda. A big portion of the founders where athiest, they also made it very clear they wanted a seperation of church and state. This is, Sorry to say but inconsiderate to other people's beliefs systems.

USA has always been a country of many beliefs with none being more or less important then the other. If anything Atheism and Democracy are natural Allies.



pokymon90 on 20 December 2014

Go Christianity!



tiffac on 20 December 2014
Busted said:

Lol! Okay I just wanted to clear that out.

No problem

Anytime, I have no right to judge an opinion of my fellow VGChartz members~ :)



Torillian on 20 December 2014
DJEVOLVE said:

Also I want to point out, this is why I have issue with organized relgion and a big reason why I am no longer a Christian, also the amount of evidence against it. If some one has a different belief system or is just asking for proof, it would inquire that they are not normal, different and there for looked down upon.

Christians as many religions is a fear based system, this also projects out onto other people.  Meaning if people don't believe as you do, they are now considered condemned, evil, outcast or even  heretics. This is why religion has killed more people in history then any other organization or group. These numbers go into the billions.

I judge people on their actions and manner. I don't care what religion you come from. however the overwhelming proof against it is just to much for me to stomach.  Science has moved to a point that organized religions telling what god wants, is doing, is saying, are that of ancient misunderstanding about the universe and it's reason.

This does not rule out a after live, I'm just sure no one has a book or proof of any propaganda they are pushing. I will also note that religion is constantly being pushed into our laws, On our money, in our pledge of allegiance. This is all somewhat new or in the last 100 years. This has to stop, Religion put us into the dark ages, demonized knowledge as evil and oppressed millions.

If you would like to look at a page that catalogs Violence, Contradictions, sexism in the bible.

http://bibviz.com/

 

I'm not trying to be offensive, however this is always a touchy subject. I also say Merry Christmas but also know it is really a Pagan Holiday.  The Roman Empire celebrated Saturnalia. The Christian Church Adopted the Pagan Holiday to cool tensions, also because constatine converted to christanity.  

Alright, DJ, let's not turn this into a debate on religion, the guy just wants to take a census.  We can have another debate on this in another thread but let's just try to keep this one as informative about the community.



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DJEVOLVE on 20 December 2014
Torillian said:
DJEVOLVE said:

Also I want to point out, this is why I have issue with organized relgion and a big reason why I am no longer a Christian, also the amount of evidence against it. If some one has a different belief system or is just asking for proof, it would inquire that they are not normal, different and there for looked down upon.

Christians as many religions is a fear based system, this also projects out onto other people.  Meaning if people don't believe as you do, they are now considered condemned, evil, outcast or even  heretics. This is why religion has killed more people in history then any other organization or group. These numbers go into the billions.

I judge people on their actions and manner. I don't care what religion you come from. however the overwhelming proof against it is just to much for me to stomach.  Science has moved to a point that organized religions telling what god wants, is doing, is saying, are that of ancient misunderstanding about the universe and it's reason.

This does not rule out a after live, I'm just sure no one has a book or proof of any propaganda they are pushing. I will also note that religion is constantly being pushed into our laws, On our money, in our pledge of allegiance. This is all somewhat new or in the last 100 years. This has to stop, Religion put us into the dark ages, demonized knowledge as evil and oppressed millions.

If you would like to look at a page that catalogs Violence, Contradictions, sexism in the bible.

http://bibviz.com/

 

I'm not trying to be offensive, however this is always a touchy subject. I also say Merry Christmas but also know it is really a Pagan Holiday.  The Roman Empire celebrated Saturnalia. The Christian Church Adopted the Pagan Holiday to cool tensions, also because constatine converted to christanity.  

Alright, DJ, let's not turn this into a debate on religion, the guy just wants to take a census.  We can have another debate on this in another thread but let's just try to keep this one as informative about the community.


My bad, I will just say I respect everyones point of view. Merry Christmas everyone.