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Jesus Christ is the risen Lord! 229 30.78%
 
Muhammad is the prophet of Allah! 71 9.54%
 
Happy late Diwali! 7 0.94%
 
I am Atheist or Agnostic. 325 43.68%
 
Buddha Buddha he's the m... 10 1.34%
 
Sikhism! 3 0.40%
 
I am a Jew, and Jesus ain't the Messiah! 5 0.67%
 
Wicca! 10 1.34%
 
SATAN 39 5.24%
 
Something else (Specify) 44 5.91%
 
Total:743
NobleTeam360 on 21 December 2014
McGilliguts said:
In the holy bible the only people killed by satan are jobs children and slaves, as part of a bet approved by God.

God personally killed approximately 25 million people, and ordered the killings of many more.

Therefore, I think it is reasonable to conclude that God is, in fact the devil. Think about it. He's a bloodthirsty monster who revels in killing and torture and demands absolute obedience.

Whereas Satan is a courageous hero who stood up to God's tyranny, even at great personal cost, and championed freedom and knowledge. The choice is clear - lucifer is a better man than God.

Link.



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Qwark on 21 December 2014

All hail Kaz (or gaben if you're pc mustard), for he's the true god of gaming and that's the only god that matters on this site anyway.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

McGilliguts on 21 December 2014
NobleTeam360 said:
McGilliguts said:
In the holy bible the only people killed by satan are jobs children and slaves, as part of a bet approved by God.

God personally killed approximately 25 million people, and ordered the killings of many more.

Therefore, I think it is reasonable to conclude that God is, in fact the devil. Think about it. He's a bloodthirsty monster who revels in killing and torture and demands absolute obedience.

Whereas Satan is a courageous hero who stood up to God's tyranny, even at great personal cost, and championed freedom and knowledge. The choice is clear - lucifer is a better man than God.

Link.


The number comes from a book called Drunk with blood: god's killings in the bible by Steve wells. I highly recommend giving it a perusal.

The number has to be an estimate of course, since it's hard to say the exact amount killed in incidents such as the great flood, the destruction of sodom and Gomorrah, or the murder of the first born Egyptian sons for instance. Suffice it to say it's quite a lot of killings.



Nintentacle on 21 December 2014
DJEVOLVE said:
Logic, facts and reason shouldn't creep you out. Atheist change position upon proof.

"Let it exist, and then it existed." is a lot easier for me believe than the whole process of Evolution - That's why it creeps me out.

As for proof, a lot of Atheist I see will deny anything you bring up if the conclusion that would be made is "God exist.". I'd have to test it out first, but I think they agree more when you say "...But it doesn't have to be God.". I may be wrong, though.



Nintentacle on 21 December 2014
DJEVOLVE said:

Also I want to point out, this is why I have issue with organized relgion and a big reason why I am no longer a Christian, also the amount of evidence against it. If some one has a different belief system or is just asking for proof, it would inquire that they are not normal, different and there for looked down upon.

Christians as many religions is a fear based system, this also projects out onto other people.  Meaning if people don't believe as you do, they are now considered condemned, evil, outcast or even  heretics. This is why religion has killed more people in history then any other organization or group. These numbers go into the billions.

I judge people on their actions and manner. I don't care what religion you come from. however the overwhelming proof against it is just to much for me to stomach.  Science has moved to a point that organized religions telling what god wants, is doing, is saying, are that of ancient misunderstanding about the universe and it's reason.

This does not rule out a after live, I'm just sure no one has a book or proof of any propaganda they are pushing. I will also note that religion is constantly being pushed into our laws, On our money, in our pledge of allegiance. This is all somewhat new or in the last 100 years. This has to stop, Religion put us into the dark ages, demonized knowledge as evil and oppressed millions.

If you would like to look at a page that catalogs Violence, Contradictions, sexism in the bible.

http://bibviz.com/

 

I'm not trying to be offensive, however this is always a touchy subject. I also say Merry Christmas but also know it is really a Pagan Holiday.  The Roman Empire celebrated Saturnalia. The Christian Church Adopted the Pagan Holiday to cool tensions, also because constatine converted to christanity.  

I don't think Christianity is based off of fear from what I know about it, and I clearly don't think anything is wrong with it (What would you expect?), but what you say does ring true for a lot of Pharisee-type denominations.



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Nintentacle on 21 December 2014
Zackasaurus-rex said:
Atheism/agnosticism isn't a belief. It's reason.

That said, I voted atheist/agnostic.

I think Agnostic is the more logical position in terms of proof (I.e., we can't even know if we actually exist, we can't be 100% about anything from a proof-standpoint.).

I'll probably never understand 6.9/7 Atheism. 



Nintentacle on 21 December 2014
McGilliguts said:
In the holy bible the only people killed by satan are jobs children and slaves, as part of a bet approved by God.

God personally killed approximately 25 million people, and ordered the killings of many more.

Therefore, I think it is reasonable to conclude that God is, in fact the devil. Think about it. He's a bloodthirsty monster who revels in killing and torture and demands absolute obedience.

Whereas Satan is a courageous hero who stood up to God's tyranny, even at great personal cost, and championed freedom and knowledge. The choice is clear - lucifer is a better man than God.

Well, since you're going by the Bible, God is love.

And, according to the Bible, love is long-suffering, kind, doesn't envy, isn't prideful, behaves itself correctly, doesn't self-seek, isn't easily provoked, thinks no evil, rejoices in truth and not sin...

The stuff God did were to short-tempered, jealous, proud, self-seeking, evil people who behave themselves incorrectly and rejoice in sin.

 

That's my take on it.



Bofferbrauer on 21 December 2014
Metallox said:

I was raised in the Catholicism, but I don't have any interest to follow this and any other religion right now.

So consider me an ignorant guy. 

Pretty much this.

Or, like my mother always said about herself: "I believe in a god but not their respective ground personnel."



Mr_No on 21 December 2014
Seece said:
One question I'd like to ask is, do the religious people here like playing violent videogames?

Of course. Why not? I mean, I'm mature and secure enough to know it's just a videogame and it doesn't need to offend me. It doesn't make me any less devout.



Proxy-Pie on 21 December 2014
Seece said:
One question I'd like to ask is, do the religious people here like playing violent videogames?

Of course :P