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DonFerrari on 20 December 2014
padib said:
DonFerrari said:

Sorry if you interpreted any of my posts as meant disrespect to you, wasn't the intention. Maybe you are reading them harsher than they were meant... we will strongly disagree on some things, like creationism (which we won't talk here =] ) and some things Sony x Nintendo, even more because you seem to think I don't like Ninty, but I really do, just preffer Sony a lot.

Well I do agree on Freedom of Speech... but on that he shouldn't bitch against Sony about it, but regret the unfortunate situation Sony was put and how inadimissible it's to have a country threat a company over Freedom of Speech... and again Obozo also use a gag law so he doesn't really cares about freedom of speech as he cares about spotlight. But that is another case. If I were Sony I would release it, but then risked being held liable on Public Opinion if anything happened and maybe have even worst things leaked (altough I doubt NK will stop leaking independent of what Sony do, and that is why I wouldn't ceade to blackmail, because they never stop).

Yes I know about it... if I was blackmailed I would at most pay to have enough time to erase the threat, but wouldn't let myself be held captive of it.

I appreciate that. I think that as long as we disagree, we respect each other, we'll be able to be at peace. I'll consider examining my own attitude when reading your posts.

You're right about freedom of speech though and I agree that Sony was in a bad spot. I believe Obama should be calling out the movie chains instead, personally.


We have an agreement, and perhaps if any discussion get too heated we call it a day on that.

Well the movie chains also were worried about the threat, but as you said quite hard to expect more than one or other disengaged attack... But public image is so troublesome that we can't put much blame on them as well.



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badgenome on 20 December 2014
thismeintiel said:

THIS x100.  We even put that guy behind bars because he dared to question Islam with a parody video.  There's also the fact that Obama has done very little when countries, like Russia, flex their military muscle and invade or fire missiles at another country.  He always shoots his mouth off when it isn't his neck on the line. 

BTW, did we ever release that video maker?  Or is he still in jail?  You know, since he's so much more dangerous to us than terrorists.

Well, he had a lengthy criminal history and violated the terms of his probation by using the internet without clearance from his probation officer, so he gets no sympathy from me and I don't think it's accurate to say he was being censored. But I think he was released about a year later.



Saeko on 20 December 2014

Obama talk about coward ? should look into a mirror some time...



naruball on 20 December 2014
DamnTastic said:
There is no such thing as bad publicity


Tell that to Janet Jackson and her career after the Superbowl event. 



Nem on 20 December 2014

I dont understand why theaters would back off from exibiting the movie. With all the publicity its had, it would be a sure hit. They werent expecting terrorists around the world to go into every theater and atempt terrorism and getting away with it.

If anything, it would be beneficial to unveil terrorist cell's.



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JamaicameCRAZY on 20 December 2014
BraLoD said:
Augen said:
BraLoD said:
Wasn't the theaters that choose to not show it?

And if Sony allowed it and it was attacked, I'm sure you would be a lot happier, right?

And here I was thinking your people safety comes in the first place...

Not really.  Safety may be a concern, but conveience, efficiency, freedom, choice, etc. are weighed against safety all the time.

If North Korea is as dangerous as many people seem to think from this incident, then the US is not safe. After all, apparently they can and will attack us at slightest provocation so why wouldn't they just attack us anyways?  I mean, do they think they'd get International support because "We attacked another nation that made a movie we didn't like!"

If someone or a group or a government is dumb enough to kill others because of speech, then yes, I choose the freedom of speech in spite of the consequence that small minded people get offended and actually murder others over it.  We shouldn't appease psychopaths at the cost of expression.  We all get offended all the time, 98% of us have the good sense to be civil about or displeasure.  Don't go to the movie, tell others not to, even picket or boycott the movie.  Once you threaten violence you lose all legitimacy...unless of course that threat actually gets what you want, then you validate it for all future arguments on this issue.  

The thing is, if the movie got released and people died in a attack there, everyone would now be saying "how could Sony release this?" and a tragedy would have happened.

When someone says there is a bomb on a place, why do they isolate it? To avoid the danger to people. Even if there was never a bomb there to begin with.
Why would anyone want to show a movie there when they said it would be bombed or something like this?

Obama doesn't have a problem with his people death? Of course he have!
Stop this "my cock is bigger than yours" attitude and understand lives could have been saved because of this. Even a war could have been avoided because of this. A fucking war!
Allowing your people to be in danger over making a safety choice, how could anyone be even thinking about it?
The theaters did the right choice, Obama is full of shit in his speech.

Wanna counter the terrorism? Okay, that's fine, that kind of ridiculous thing should really never happen, it's a comedy movie and look what it scalated to, it's clear things have to be made, but defying it with your people lives is not a good way to do it.

Well when the dark knight rises came out someone went to a early viewing and shot up the theater. I remember everyone being so scared to go to the movies especially that one in particular. Now its not the same situation but nobody blamed the studio or the movie after ( im pretty sure he called himself the joker). Anyway i still went and saw the movie and id go again. 

 

Ot. Im pretty sure he also praised sony for getting the fbi involved with a couple of hours of the attack. Also he called pulling the movie a mistake so i cant see how this is chastising. Fact is theres a lot of people at fault for why the movie wont be in theaters on its release date (theaters, other studios, motion picture assosiation). All of them were to scared to lend support or help at all when this all went down. So id say its the industries fault before i would ever blame sony.



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fvgc3 on 20 December 2014

Obama got a lot of threatening in the past,Sony should ask helping from the USA before cancelling it so soon.



fvgc3 on 20 December 2014

Human beings of all races and countries have good and evil natures seeking opposite side human made laws and political systems,democratic and authoritarian systems are illegal and crush the opposite side human beings natures that can't be eliminated while all are new born brains in any country(including the earth level which side is dominating do matter)for human beings brain comparing functions forever.

Authoritarian system?(One man,one Party,one God systems that forbid open comparing environments including independent press,open talking,open voting)
Most human beings dare not(Americans or not)to challenge anything said by the rulers including 1+1=3,this is a political system that false facts can beat facts in long term,human beings evil natures love it not hate it in the past,now and future for human beings brain comparing functions.

Supporting open comparing environments?
Science(bring true happiness to human beings which bodies only follow the physical world rules that their existence has nothing to do with human beings minds) that is in line with most ones ain't on the way of most human beings at all.

Forbidding open comparing environments?
Most human beings can be brainwashed with any keeping talking from the authoritarian rulers-------most human beings dare not to challenge anything said by the rulers-----yes you have to bear with most human beings choice,including fearing--------this is where the CCP ways can reign the earth with forbidding open comparing functions worldwide,1.4 or 7 billions for all are new born brains.

Most human beings believing?
The true power foundation among human beings world forever,whatever its contents are including false facts,as long as they are believed by most human beings,then they have power--------------this is where supporting and forbidding independent press,freedom of talking,open voting are the key tasks in democratic and authoritarians systems.

NO?
You want to know China,NK?you can never learn the real China and NK for lacking independent press there-------you have to take what the ccp or Kim feed you.



MoHasanie on 20 December 2014

He's right. Sony is being stupid and is ruining its own reputation.



    

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Aerys on 20 December 2014

Only a childish person would blame sony, they lose everything in this story and didnt have the choice, all these millions in a movie for nothing, they didnt need that



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