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kowenicki said:
LordLichtenstein said:
kowenicki said:
 


*I will continue to update this thread every week.

It is pretty incredible, that PS4 (Rest of the World) might "out sell" Xbox One (Total) sometime in 2015. 





And, yes some of these Charts were used in another thread, but given the hate and the misplacement of the thread (Microsoft Discussion), I thought, that it would be a good idea to make a new one - under a different name and topic.

I am sorry if anyone felt hurt or attacked by my other thread, I had no intention to offend anyone.


I was confused for a while... now I see your 'rest of world' is the world outside USA and UK?

The traditional ROW is that outside of Europe, Japan and N.A - i.e. the main markets

Am i reading your rather messy and confusing charts correct? (by the way your bottom pic isnt showing)

Is it US + UK versus rest of world (including japan and europe?)

 


Sorry. Yes, 'rest of the world' is every market outside USA and UK Why? Because these are the two strongest markets for both brands.

Then why are you surprised that a console could outsell another console in only two markets?  Whats incredible about that? 

He's not saying PS4 will outsell Xbone in two markets . He's saying that PS4s ROW (including Europe and Japan) will outsell Xbone, total, meaning US, UK, Japan, Europe, everywhere. PS4 (without factoring in the US and UK) will have outsold XBone's WW LTD. Take PS4s numbers, subtract US and UK, and it will still be higher than XBone's numbers, without subtracting anything from XBone, at some point in 2015. That's what the statement meant.

It's not that complicated.



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zuvuyeay said:
someone used to love making market share threads,can't remembr who it was now

Yeah, all from data "available on the site". Lmao



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PS4 in ROW was probably above XB1 totals before the holidays. Should get back there after the holidays



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kowenicki said:


Hey, I have no problem with it.  I was one of the first to start these kinds of thread.  Some of which were adopted as regular items on the site.  As you should know.

Im just puzzled by the isolation of UK and US v the whole rest of the market. 

I guess it just proves how massively important the US and UK are.  At last people agree.

Anyhow.  Carry on.  Im out of here.

After half a dozen attempts to explain this to you you still don't get it. He ISN'T comparing PS4 ROW to XB1 US+UK BUT HE IS comparing PS4 ROW to XB1 TOTALS!



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zuvuyeay said:
someone used to love making market share threads,can't remembr who it was now


lol, i forgot about that.  xD



kowenicki said:

Hey, I have no problem with it.  I was one of the first to start these kinds of thread.  Some of which were adopted as regular items on the site.  As you should know.

Im just puzzled by the isolation of UK and US v the whole rest of the market. 

I guess it just proves how massively important the US and UK are.  At last people agree.

Anyhow.  Carry on.  Im out of here.

You keep misunderstanding the point or you're intentially ignoring it. The fact that the graphs show that US and UK are important markets is true, but that was not the point. The main focus of this thread is how PS4's ROW sales are close to the X1's worldwide sales.



Ninsect said:
kowenicki said:


Hey, I have no problem with it.  I was one of the first to start these kinds of thread.  Some of which were adopted as regular items on the site.  As you should know.

Im just puzzled by the isolation of UK and US v the whole rest of the market. 

I guess it just proves how massively important the US and UK are.  At last people agree.

Anyhow.  Carry on.  Im out of here.

After half a dozen attempts to explain this to you you still don't get it. He ISN'T comparing PS4 ROW to XB1 US+UK BUT HE IS comparing PS4 ROW to XB1 TOTALS!

And then he spun it to Xbox's benefit, since the US and UK are the only markets it does well in. Sheeeeeesh.



yeah,kowens threads did turn into the official threads,they were good

i'm a bit tired of the US/UK split/fight too though doesn't really make sense seeing as the PS4 is leading in both markets



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Did anyone really find your last thread upsetting? The whole premise of the thread was wrong and your own charts showed that you had no basis for your arguments other than to try and paint a bleak picture of the X1 performance. But few, if any, actually found that upsetting or even surprising.