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Forums - Sales Discussion - (July 11th, PS3 tops the Wii!) PS3 SW will be able to surpass Wii and 360? VGC numbers.

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Will PS3 pass anyone?

No. 70 23.73%
 
Yes, but only the Wii 43 14.58%
 
Yes, but only the 360 (huh?) 37 12.54%
 
Yes, will pass both (Wii/360) 144 48.81%
 
Total:294
DonFerrari on 16 December 2014
tak13 said:
DonFerrari said:
Yes it will. Its decline ratio is a lot smoothier. Ps3 have to hit 100M HW-1B SW and x360 will be quite close. Like 90-95M HW and 950-1000M SW.

We will have to wait like 5 years to be certain.


It depends on when they will be discontinued!Taking into account ps2 11 years lifetime,for me death of ps3 and xbox360 is coming in 2017!10m and 15m sales in two years is quite difficult but apparently you expect far longer lifetime!

The maximum in my opinion for ps3 is 90m and for xbox360 quite below it!With USA only in xbox360 case and Europe in ps3 case,is way tough for beyond 90m numbers!

Think it,of course I don't want to agree with me lol.:P

Given the 50%-60% drop,they will be at 85m or even a little bit below 85m by the end of the year!


Uhnnnnnnnnn I expect longer lifetimes because of price still high and longer gen. But of course ps4 sucess can kill it faster.



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http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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tak13 on 16 December 2014
DonFerrari said:
tak13 said:
DonFerrari said:
Yes it will. Its decline ratio is a lot smoothier. Ps3 have to hit 100M HW-1B SW and x360 will be quite close. Like 90-95M HW and 950-1000M SW.

We will have to wait like 5 years to be certain.


It depends on when they will be discontinued!Taking into account ps2 11 years lifetime,for me death of ps3 and xbox360 is coming in 2017!10m and 15m sales in two years is quite difficult but apparently you expect far longer lifetime!

The maximum in my opinion for ps3 is 90m and for xbox360 quite below it!With USA only in xbox360 case and Europe in ps3 case,is way tough for beyond 90m numbers!

Think it,of course I don't want to agree with me lol.:P

Given the 50%-60% drop,they will be at 85m or even a little bit below 85m by the end of the year!


Uhnnnnnnnnn I expect longer lifetimes because of price still high and longer gen. But of course ps4 sucess can kill it faster.


I had said back in 2013 on a comment that ps4 would kill ps3 and same for wii against wii u!:PThe second truly happened in 2013 and the first is maybe happening now!:P



Chazore on 16 December 2014

I'm sensing a tie tbh.



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Gilgamesh on 16 December 2014

If you go to Software Totals it gives you a much different number?



tak13 on 16 December 2014
BraLoD said:
tak13 said:
DonFerrari said:


Uhnnnnnnnnn I expect longer lifetimes because of price still high and longer gen. But of course ps4 sucess can kill it faster.


I had said back in 2013 on a comment that ps4 would kill ps3 and same for wii against wii u!:PThe second truly happened in 2013 and the first is maybe happening now!:P


PS4 is not going to kill the PS3.
PS3 is a great system that a lot of people still want to get a hold of, and a price cut would help a lot.
But the strongest point is, PS3 have free multiplayer network, and to people that still want to jump into the past gen that will be a great factor.
PS3 will keep having a great community for years, with people being able to play it with their friends without the need to pay more to have access to online multiplayer.
PS3 had an great year this year were for the most part it was tracking ahead of the XBO, and it will keep considerably strong for some good time.

WOW why all that?:P I just mean that most sony wannabe gamers will jump to PS4!:P

I don't disagree a lot but it is 50-60% down,same for xbox360 and 88k for novermber in USA I would friendly say you that isn't a good sign!We will see with a price cut as you said.:P



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Conina on 16 December 2014
tak13 said:
BraLoD said:

PS4 is not going to kill the PS3.
PS3 is a great system that a lot of people still want to get a hold of, and a price cut would help a lot.
But the strongest point is, PS3 have free multiplayer network, and to people that still want to jump into the past gen that will be a great factor.
PS3 will keep having a great community for years, with people being able to play it with their friends without the need to pay more to have access to online multiplayer.
PS3 had an great year this year were for the most part it was tracking ahead of the XBO, and it will keep considerably strong for some good time.

WOW why all that?:P I just mean that most sony wannabe gamers will jump to PS4!:P

I don't disagree a lot but it is 50-60% down,same for xbox360 and 88k for novermber in USA I would friendly say you that isn't a good sign!We will see with a price cut as you said.:P

Not everyone can afford a PS4, XBO or even a WiiU (poorer countries). Or the parents have set a limit for the console costs and don't allow online subscriptions.

The PS3 has still a great catalogue for newcomers with many cheap PS1, PS2 and PS3 games. The support this year wasn't bad either:

All it needs is a long overdue price cut.



DonFerrari on 16 December 2014
tak13 said:
DonFerrari said:
tak13 said:
DonFerrari said:
Yes it will. Its decline ratio is a lot smoothier. Ps3 have to hit 100M HW-1B SW and x360 will be quite close. Like 90-95M HW and 950-1000M SW.

We will have to wait like 5 years to be certain.


It depends on when they will be discontinued!Taking into account ps2 11 years lifetime,for me death of ps3 and xbox360 is coming in 2017!10m and 15m sales in two years is quite difficult but apparently you expect far longer lifetime!

The maximum in my opinion for ps3 is 90m and for xbox360 quite below it!With USA only in xbox360 case and Europe in ps3 case,is way tough for beyond 90m numbers!

Think it,of course I don't want to agree with me lol.:P

Given the 50%-60% drop,they will be at 85m or even a little bit below 85m by the end of the year!


Uhnnnnnnnnn I expect longer lifetimes because of price still high and longer gen. But of course ps4 sucess can kill it faster.


I had said back in 2013 on a comment that ps4 would kill ps3 and same for wii against wii u!:PThe second truly happened in 2013 and the first is maybe happening now!:P

Uhnnnnnnnnn I think it still have 2015 for good sales (probably above WiiU, sadly) and 2016 a long death.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Chris Hu on 22 December 2014
Barozi said:
I wish ioi would finally add the 15m+ 360 software sales (and with it the ~7 million sellers) that were lost with a previous VGC update.
But I guess that will never happen....


Good point most people forget that the 360 has a lot more undertracked games then the PS3 has.



Teeqoz on 03 January 2015

I reckon it'll pass both. Wii will happen this month (january), 360 will happen sometime this year.



Teeqoz on 03 January 2015
BraLoD said:
Teeqoz said:
I reckon it'll pass both. Wii will happen this month (january), 360 will happen sometime this year.

I wonder if I'm using the right numbers.
VGC has two different numbers itself, the other ones both Wii and 360 are well over the PS3 (with basically the same amount).
I would love to ioi to pass by this thread and correct me if I'm using the wrong numbers and should use the others.
In that case, PS3 might have a hard time passing the 360.

I'm using this ones (the ones in the weekly charts) because a very old user here once told me the other numbers (the database numbers) was wrong as they were only estimations made a long time ago (he was refering to HW numbers, but if so SW should be the same).


What other numbers are there? How high are they?