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Wii U peak>GameCube peak?

Yes, 11 games next year= high sales 124 57.94%
 
No, Wii U(nderperformer) 90 42.06%
 
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sc94597 said:
DerNebel said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
it all depends on Nintendo's game pacing in 2015. So far in 2013 and 2014,everytime they've gotten momentum,they've killed it by having game droughts and delays.

If they can keep a good steady pace of games coming throughout the year, then 2015 will be Wii U's peak year by far

That trail of thought makes no sense to me.

How does the frequency in which these games release affect their system selling ability? If someone wants to buy a Wii U for any of the games that come out next year then they'll buy the system for that game when the game releases. Why would anyone not buy a Wii U for, let's say, Kirby when he wants one for Kirby, just because the game releases with no immediate other game releasing close to it.

If all the announced 2015 games from Nintendo release in 2015 then all the people that want to buy a Wii U for any of those games should be buying one no matter if all the games release in Oct-Dec or if they put one out every month.


Because most people buy consoles for more than one game. 

....Uh, ok? And how does that relate in any way to what I'm saying?



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DarkRPGamer007 said:

Zelda is niche? Plus who knows the power of new releases like Splatoon and Devil's Third. Also Kirby and Yoshi are well known names, so they should generate a profit. Star Fox will have many return if implemented right, Xenoblade will capture Japan (and hopefully the West) and Mario Maker could become HUGE!

Popularity of Zelda is on a steady decline, the new one could inject new life into the series, sure, but by seeing the sales of WWHD & HW seems like a big chunk of the fanbase already owns the console.

Won't really argue about Splatoon nor Mario Maker, we'll have to wait and see; when a great game like Bayonetta 2 flops on the console then Devil's Third has no chance.

The newest iterations of Yoshi and Kirby didn't precicely lit the charts on fire, the fanbase of those series most likely own a WiiU already, will they bump the console? Sure, but don't expect them to do more than what Pikmin 3 did.

"Xenoblade will capture Japan" By that "will" it seems that you're dead certain on that, something in the likes of "Xenoblade wil quite unlikely capture Japan" sounds more likely, I mean with Mario Kart 8+Smash WiiU is down YOY in Japan, to think that a sequel to a game that Japan barely cared about will do anything is rather foolish for lack of a better word.

Honestly, the SF fanbase is nearly non existent, the only reason the the original SNES one and N64 one sold so well where due to gimmicks, the Super FX Chip and the Rumble Pack respectively, the WiiU is pretty much a gimmick and peope aren't buying it already.



Skullwaker said:
leedlelee said:
A price drop and effective marketing would help make this a reality more so than any (currently announced) game releasing next year...

Agreed. Though software is important, certain console releases have shown that effective marketing can be the most important thing to a console's sales. Plus people just like paying less money.


Yup its pretty self explanatory.  Price drop + software = success 



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Can't see it myself. 2015 represents the first year where wii u doesn't have major third party support and this Christmas has shown the wii u is nowhere near the same sales level as xbox one or ps4. Yes there might be a new sku or price cut but both ps4 and xbone will be cheaper and showing software on a technically much higher level.

I don't think the wii u will match gamecube lifetime numbers or peak next year.



I think 2015 could be the peak year, dont forget that from Jan-May 2014, the only noteworthy release was Donkey Kong TF, so those first 5 months of sales were nothing spectacular. With MK8, Smash and the rest of the holiday titles, not to mention new titles, i think those first 5 months in 2015, Wii U will have a much healthier baseline and build up a lead from 2014. Zelda and Xenoblade will be the biggies for around the holiday season, so hopefully they can match what Smash is achieving.



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Angelv577 said:
Hard to believe when the 2 best system sellers are already out and didn't do much for the system. If I were you, I would have lower my expectations.

Are you saying that MK8 didn't do much for the system?!



DarkRPGamer007 said:
KyleeStrutt said:

DarkRPGamer007 said:

Wii U is not going to reach 5m this year, and yes it will do better next year because there's almost a game every month. Even though there aren't titans like Mario Kart 8 and Smash next year, Zelda should provide a decent boost and other games should at least keep the console higher than 30k weekly

So, the year it gets its two biggest system sellers you expect WiiU to sell less than 5m.

Then on a year full of niche releases you honestly expect it to sell 6m-8m?

Ok then.

Zelda is niche? Plus who knows the power of new releases like Splatoon and Devil's Third. Also Kirby and Yoshi are well known names, so they should generate a profit. Star Fox will have many return if implemented right, Xenoblade will capture Japan (and hopefully the West) and Mario Maker could become HUGE!


Good to see i'm not the only one that thinks Mario Maker is the game that could surprise saleswise. It's really the only game that can bump Wii-U sales above expectations.



AnthonyW86 said:
Skullwaker said:
The interesting thing about the Gamecube is that it wasn't selling half bad in its first couple years due to many important games coming out early in its lifespan. After that though, it tanked. The Wii U is a different beast in that its first year was almost nonexistent. I think it's still possible for it to outsell the GC lifetime, especially with so many flagship titles left to come out. It depends.


The only difference in games is that Gamecube got a Zelda game early and Wii-U hasn't yet. What Smash has proved however is that a lot of people that are interested in these titles already own a Wii-U. I really don't see Wii-U ever catching up to Gamecube. 


No dear!...There is one other huge difference!Two consecutive price drops in its first two years -50$ -50$,which is might be the reason that gc dominates!Thanks to the price drops sold really fast...!



haqqaton said:
Angelv577 said:
Hard to believe when the 2 best system sellers are already out and didn't do much for the system. If I were you, I would have lower my expectations.

Are you saying that MK8 didn't do much for the system?!


It certainly helped the wii u, but it didn't give it the lasting boost many hoped it would.



haqqaton said:
Angelv577 said:
Hard to believe when the 2 best system sellers are already out and didn't do much for the system. If I were you, I would have lower my expectations.

Are you saying that MK8 didn't do much for the system?!


No it didn't really do much, it appears like it did but the fact that it released in a time that had a drought last year made the YoY boost seem bigger than it really was. If Wii U had a somewhat major game+bundle release in May/June 2013 then we would have likely seen a modest YoY boost like we have seen the rest of the year.

In the US Wii U is up YoY by about 270k thru November while Japan is down about 100k YoY in the same time frame. If VGC numbers are correct then Europe is up by a similar amount as the US. Worldwide Wii U is up by about 500k YoY in the first 11 months, percentage wise that's pretty decent but in terms of actual numbers that's not really huge considering this year had Donkey Kong, Mario Kart, Hyrule Warriors, Bayonetta 2, Smash Bros, Captain Toad.



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