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I'm not an anti-MS fanboy as I am fully planning to buy a 360 elite in the next few months for it's upcoming jRPG titles.

 

However, Vista is argued by most people and people with computer technical experience as being TERRIBLE.  Alot of people are starting to call it Windows Me 2.  I an many other people have tried Vista (I didn't pay for it but got to use it legally).  I found that their are alot of incompatabilities, heavy resource usage, a non user friendly interface that asks my security preferences every time I just want to open a file, bad NVidia support, etc.

 

If you remember the time during Me, the anti-MS sentiment was high kind of like Sony after the rootkit right now.  Because MS is doing everything it can to make everyone throw XP in the trash, do you think that the sentiment will come back?  How do you think it will affect the ? 



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effect* I don't think it will affect the 360 honestly...even if it does suck.



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Vista will replace XP eventually, MS has too much invested in it to let it go the way of Me. Me was a stop-gap, a temporary fill in until things started working well on the much better NT kernel (2000/XP). Vista is a whole new line and MS will make sure it succeeds. XP took of slowly too but once things started getting compatible things worked out. also, no effect on 360 at all.



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one of my work computers has vista, first thing i did was turn off all the extra security confirmation shit on it,....



Everyone that is calling Vista terrible must not have tried it. It is rock solid and has not crashed once in the last 4 months. Best OS I have used by far.



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Just because it doesn't crash doesn't mean it doesn't suck. Drivers are wack with a lot of graphics cards, it's a resource hog...I have no reason to switch over yet...XP is much faster for me.



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I've been using Ubuntu for the last 2 years with no hassles. Don't even need XP let alone Vista...



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BenKenobi88 said:
Just because it doesn't crash doesn't mean it doesn't suck. Drivers are wack with a lot of graphics cards, it's a resource hog...I have no reason to switch over yet...XP is much faster for me.

Regarding drivers, it's just a matter of time... Regarding speed, I found that Vista is much faster for me. I can see that it actually caches my most used applications so it launches them very fast. With Vista, most (or all) of my memory is always being used but that's due to caching, it doesn't affect performance since the cache will get emptied if a program needs more memory... And my experience is in a laptop with a single core processor, not any top-of-the-line current computer. It has 1 GB of memory though, which is the recommended RAM for Vista.

That's basically the difference between XP and Vista; Vista uses all the resources the computer has in order to make the OS faster, while XP just uses what it needs... You don't need to think much to conclude that Vista's philosophy is better.

Regarding whether Vista is the new ME, the answer is no. Vista is not bug-riddled, it's just a new operating system which needs a bit of time to mature and for the other companies in the industry to adapt to.



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NJ5 said:
BenKenobi88 said:
Just because it doesn't crash doesn't mean it doesn't suck. Drivers are wack with a lot of graphics cards, it's a resource hog...I have no reason to switch over yet...XP is much faster for me.

Regarding drivers, it's just a matter of time... Regarding speed, I found that Vista is much faster for me. I can see that it actually caches my most used applications so it launches them very fast. With Vista, most (or all) of my memory is always being used but that's due to caching, it doesn't affect performance since the cache will get emptied if a program needs more memory... And my experience is in a laptop with a single core processor, not any top-of-the-line current computer. It has 1 GB of memory though, which is the recommended RAM for Vista.

That's basically the difference between XP and Vista; Vista uses all the resources the computer has in order to make the OS faster, while XP just uses what it needs... You don't need to think much to conclude that Vista's philosophy is better.

Regarding whether Vista is the new ME, the answer is no. Vista is not bug-riddled, it's just a new operating system which needs a bit of time to mature and for the other companies in the industry to adapt to.

I'm sorry for bringing this up, but this sounds like the same "wait till the games are released" argument. I want to use whatever it is I want to use right now!

For starters, I don't like the fact that most of the applications I earn my bread and butter on are not optimized for 64-bit computing yet, so why upgrade?

I love to game on my PC and Vista so far has proved to run nicely with some games, but at the same time proved to be quite unstable with other games, and flat-out die on many other games - that for me is enough to relegate it to that magical time in the future when drivers, updates and software all start working properly.

Just like when XP first came out, if you liked PC gaming, you would have been a fool to install XP; the same holds true today with Vista. having said that, things will improve and sort themselves out in time; it's just that the time isn't now.

My XP is also streamlined for gaming - I've got rid of most everything I don't need in the OS (disable this service, delete that kernel, etc), resulting in an install that occupies less than 600mb and is blazingly fast to boot and run. That, plus my philosophy to never run any software on my computer that needs installing (apart from games, of course) keeps my XP a lean, mean gaming machine.



Vista is just another Microsoft operating system, and will be pre-installed on every new computer pretty much, excluding macs. Most people that buy computers only use them for e-mail, the internet, etc, and don't have to worry about graphics drivers or anything. They don't build the PCs themselves or even want to touch a stick of ram, much less open the case. And most people that USE computers just buy them already manufactured (Dell, HP, etc) from Best Buy or wherever they shop. They won't bother wondering if they should upgrade to Vista, because computers won't be sold with XP anymore (maybe this already happened? dont know). PS: "your mother" can you give me a link to somewhere that shows how to make my XP blazingly fast? lol. i've tried to optimize it but it always slows down after a month.