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Did sony do enough to win november NPD?

Nah 291 38.96%
 
Yes 130 17.40%
 
They can't lower their p... 242 32.40%
 
xbox one is the future of the USA. 82 10.98%
 
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PenguinZ on 12 December 2014
SWORDF1SH said:
PenguinZ said:
Microsoft can afford to absorb losses... Sony can't.

Silly argument that I see keep popping up. Do people really think that MS had a price drop to just chuck money away? No, they did it to make their install base bigger and therefore make more money on software sales  and live subs.

What Sony have to decide is that if they drop their price, how much would they need to so that profit from increased install base outweights the loss they would from profit from console pric drop. It seems that its not time for a price drop.

For MS a price drop is more beneficial and an easier decision to make.

This also has nothing to do with arrogance and anybody with a slight understanding of business can see why.

What's silly about it? Sony is still in a bad state as a company. The PS4 has been doing extremely well for them. Microsoft on the otherhand has been getting crushed, so they needed to do something. The price cut clearly helped them a lot with sales. Microsoft is likely happy with the results, but I'm sure they lost money doing it.

Now if Sony were in better shape financially, the question would be this: Would Sony have matched Microsoft's price cut this holiday in the US in an attempt to completely shut the door on Xbox. I think they actually might have, and I think it would've worked.

BTW, I don't think Sony was arrogant, nor have they really been arrogant in general, and I do believe that they made a good decision this holiday season.



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PotentHerbs on 12 December 2014

Why mention the price being a factor of the gap (which it is) when the PS4 outsells the XOne at the same footing?

OT: Sony still had a great month overall being cheaper & having less bundles, the latter is where they could of improved.



COX on 12 December 2014

What is arrogant is to think that you have almost won the war when your only victory is one maybe two months in a year.



TheBlackNaruto on 12 December 2014
SweetTalia said:
alrightiwill said:
The thread title is still very baity. It is phrased in a way that clearly means that Sony were arrogant and the question is was this arrogance the reason for their loss this month.

Title should be Were Sony being arrogant in not changing for Nov?

The title has been changed by mods and it is not baity.

I  gave my reasons why i think Sony arrogance got to them if you read the post.

Everyone can voice their thoughts right here in this thread about whether sony was being arrogant not to change the price.

I Put up a poll asking vgchartz whether they think sony has done all it could for november. Either you agree yes or no.

But the title and the poll are like opposites that's where the confusion comes in. The poll has NO OPTION for Sony being arrogant and it costing them Nov NPD nor an option for no they were not being arrogant. That seems to be the issue most are having it seems. Now if the thread title said "Did Sony do enough to win Nov NPD" AND THEN you put you felt they were arrogant and it cost them there would be less of an issue. But the title and the poll conflict with each other hence the reason most of the responses in this thread are the way they are......just my opinion.



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JohnPombrio on 12 December 2014

One thing that I have not seen mentioned was that the Yen has been seriously weakened in the past year. That makes any sales of Japanese products overseas bring in larger profits. SONY could permanently drop the price by the 20% the Yen has risen in just the last 6 months.

Yet SONY has made such a huge deal out of PS4 sales that to drop the price would undermine their assumption that the PS4 is the clear winner and needs no other incentive to sell. This arrogance could hurt them if it continues.



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narre on 12 December 2014
itsFizz said:

Maybe I´m alone on this one but I think even a pricedrop wouldn´t have changed this months´ NPD result by much. Imo Microsoft needed to win this NPD really badly so even if Sony dropped the PS4´s price to 349$ MS would´ve undercut them by another 50$.


Exactly. 



zuvuyeay on 12 December 2014

arrogance? don't understand this unless it is a bait thread

did they do enough to win November npd,no they didn't



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mjk45 on 12 December 2014
padib said:
It could be arrogance, it could be patience.

One thing is certain: the xbox brand is still strong in the USA. Sony are aware of that and I'm certain will not justify losing marketshare due to their success worldwide.

Sony care about the US market, the proof is how much they are doing to counter the XB in it. The first signs were on the PS3, with commanding ND to grimmify their new Uncharted IP at the time, and then the release of more grim games on the whole, more FPS', and whatnot.

So yes, Sony does care about the USA, but I think that them not following MS with the pricecut is more patience than arrogance at this point. If the scales start to get close to tipping, you can be certain Sony will take measures. The US, again, is very important to them.

Yes the brand  is still strong in the US ,but it's trending down and needed a lot of help to get those sales in it's strongest season .



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mjk45 on 12 December 2014
exclusive_console said:
PS4 is already selling like crazy. They probably relied on LBP3 which did not workout.

The bundles it had are last gen games and although much better ones. It could not stop the COD AW and also Unity bundle of Xbone.

Wasn't the GT5 bundle the biggest selling bundle.



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sergiodaly on 12 December 2014

On the scale, in one plate, increased income for the bigest month of the year, in the other, increased costs to move more units and have less income just to win globaly in the US. I think they made the right choise. BTW whats the prize for winning the ndp?

@ tittle, by this line of thought, nintendo was arrogant for like 5 years, because they didn't lower the price of Wii until like 2012 or something.

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