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sc94597 on 12 December 2014
outlawauron said:
sc94597 said:
Damn't that makes me want this game more. I wish there was an archetypal villain. FFXII and FFXIII lacked strong villains and they were somewhat boring in that area. Yeah, it is kinda a cliche, but that's what makes Final Fantasy unique. You have the stereotypical good vs. evil with twists here and there. Anyway, I can't see myself getting a PS4 or XBONE for many years, so hopefully either there is a PC release of this game that isn't very, very late or I can get my hands on a console for a week and rent this game.

Did you complete both games? FF12 was praised for its villians and FF13 certainly wasn't the worst in the series.

Yes, and I've played XII again very recently (last month.) I prefer the villains in X much better as far as the PS2 games are concerned. And my point wasn't about villains being present in general or even being good characters. It was about archetypal villians. Kefka, Sephiroth, Ultimecia, Kuja, and Yu-Yevon/Jecht (sin) were all archetypes for evil which you find more about and it gets more complicated. They are menacing throughout the whole game and never feel very distant. The closest thing XII has to that is Vayne, but he is just the embodiment of the empire in the form of a character. It is the empire that feels evil in that game, and Vayne is its leader, but that's it. Vayne was probably the most human bad-guy, but that just doesn't fit in the mold I was presenting with the archetypal fantasy evil. Nothing is wrong with that though. 

As for XIII, I haven't played it in ages (2010) and didn't finish it when I had. I stand corrected however. There is a big bad archetypal evil in that game, it just didn't feel like it. Which I guess fits with the story of manipulation. 



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VXIII on 12 December 2014
artur-fernand said:
VXIII said:

 “On top of that I’d like to be remembered as someone who made the Final Fantasy mainline series branch out a little bit in a new direction, certainly with the Type series as well. That I took Final Fantasy in a direction that maybe is a little bit more mature and more core gamer-focused, with a more visceral representation of violence. So maybe I can be remembered as someone who made that kind of necessary evolution of the series or took it in an interesting direction. I’d be happy with that.” Tabata

I honestly don't even know how to comment on that part... Considering the history of this project It is well-known who planned and executed all the basis of this game. Especially the ones mentioned here.

Must be an Interesting situation Nomura is going through, heh.


I don't think he minds. everybody knows this project is Nomura's, and he'll certainly be credited (either special thanks or story or original idea or even co-director). Plus, Tabata has been the co-director ever since the game ACTUALLY started development, so he has credit for it too. And Nomura probably decided himself to leave this project to focus on KH3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIx9VJWSl8

This trailer came out in 2011, a whole year before Tabata joined the project. As you can see, it is the same game but with PS3 graphics. So no, not really. The game has its identity way before Tabata.

As for Nomura leaving, he stated it was the company decision not his, he was too passionate for this project to leave. I don't think it is good for SE to have one person in charge of the biggest two projects at once, no wonder they replaced him.

I hope Nomura will be credited as a director too, many games has more than one director.



HollyGamer on 12 December 2014

VI is the best classic for me, best story, best character.

So i just hope they have incredible story for XV and diverse character which i haven't seen yet (only 4 guys and 2 woman from the previous demo), i am hoping to see more on the next demo or trailer as the games close for the release date .



AZWification on 12 December 2014

But when will we get a FF game which is inspired by the masterpiece that is FFIX, SE?!



                
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outlawauron on 12 December 2014
sc94597 said:
outlawauron said:
sc94597 said:
Damn't that makes me want this game more. I wish there was an archetypal villain. FFXII and FFXIII lacked strong villains and they were somewhat boring in that area. Yeah, it is kinda a cliche, but that's what makes Final Fantasy unique. You have the stereotypical good vs. evil with twists here and there. Anyway, I can't see myself getting a PS4 or XBONE for many years, so hopefully either there is a PC release of this game that isn't very, very late or I can get my hands on a console for a week and rent this game.

Did you complete both games? FF12 was praised for its villians and FF13 certainly wasn't the worst in the series.

Yes, and I've played XII again very recently (last month.) I prefer the villains in X much better as far as the PS2 games are concerned. And my point wasn't about villains being present in general or even being good characters. It was about archetypal villians. Kefka, Sephiroth, Ultimecia, Kuja, and Yu-Yevon/Jecht (sin) were all archetypes for evil which you find more about and it gets more complicated. They are menacing throughout the whole game and never feel very distant. The closest thing XII has to that is Vayne, but he is just the embodiment of the empire in the form of a character. It is the empire that feels evil in that game, and Vayne is its leader, but that's it. Vayne was probably the most human bad-guy, but that just doesn't fit in the mold I was presenting with the archetypal fantasy evil. Nothing is wrong with that though. 

As for XIII, I haven't played it in ages (2010) and didn't finish it when I had. I stand corrected however. There is a big bad archetypal evil in that game, it just didn't feel like it. Which I guess fits with the story of manipulation. 

The Judges as group/organization were the villians. They were BAMF. I liked having a group of enemies banding together much like I was against them.



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KingWithNoKrown on 12 December 2014

Anybody else gotta bad feeling about this game? I just want my Type 0 and XII HD remastered.

IV and VI are amazing games though. We'll see.



wolfofthepack on 12 December 2014

does square really think we are going to fall for this ! this game looks like it was inspired SOLELY by that GARBAGE FFXIII



wolfofthepack on 12 December 2014
AZWification said:

But when will we get a FF game which is inspired by the masterpiece that is FFIX, SE?!


that is all i have been dreaming about for the past few years but sighhh



alternine on 12 December 2014

I hope it will be more like Final Fantasy X



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enditall727 on 12 December 2014

I dont see it.

If i guessed which FF this game had the most inspiration drew from, i would've guessed FF8.