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Whoever is in charge of their pricing in Europe should be fired. X1 needs a big price cut badly in Europe.



    

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Mr Puggsly said:
Vladimir7 said:

Games, really? BETTER games? Halo MCC, sunset overdrive, Forza horizon 2 beat driveclub, how does ps4 currently in this season, have the better games? 

Anyways, i think microsoft should focus on US and UK. biggest markets. US alone accounts for more than the rest of the world COMBINED. 


Its not even a debate, the X1 has the better exclusives at the moment. That could change over time, but that's just the way it is for now.

MS should do whatever they can to move more units in all of Europe. They basically enjoy same types of games and American gamers anyhow. Perhaps they need to be more competitive with pricing.


Really yet according to meta PS4 has the more better rated games.

So fact is PS4 > x1 game quality wise. 



Vladimir7 said:
Zackasaurus-rex said:
The average German game console consumer is a lot smarter than the average US one. That makes it harder for MS to stay relevant there through marketing and giveaways alone when Sony provide better games, hardware, and services.

MS could step it up a little, but the only -really- strong thing they could do is better emulate Sony's creative role in the industry.


The average german game console consumer is smarter?

Services, microsoft provides more, look at xbox one features vs ps4. LOOK AT UPDATES, please. 

Hardware, goes to ps4. 

Games, really? BETTER games? Halo MCC, sunset overdrive, Forza horizon 2 beat driveclub, how does ps4 currently in this season, have the better games? 

Anyways, i think microsoft should focus on US and UK. biggest markets. US alone accounts for more than the rest of the world COMBINED. 


FH2 is available on 360, not console exclusive but platform exclusive.  MS provides more services in which way? Please tell me aside from XBL and Music what exactly they provide.

Sony has PS+, Music Unlimited, Video Unlimited, PSNow and soon it's own TV streaming service. All owned, operated and provided by Sony.

Games are a toss up. MCC had/s major online issues and literally every thing offered there is, was and has been offered on older platforms (ie no new content, just a polished version of Halo 2).

 

Almost every reason to buy an X1 software wise is temporary - Titanfall. FH2. DR3. Ryse. Garden Warfare.

These were all touted as exclusive yet launched on older platforms, will be on competing platforms or are already available somewhere else. Tell me what killer app I can only find on X1. 



Vladimir7 said:

Anyways, i think microsoft should focus on US and UK. biggest markets. US alone accounts for more than the rest of the world COMBINED. 

Regional Infographics: Seven regional and global infographics using this data are in this insights post.

Top 100 Country Rankings based on Game Revenues | 2014 Estimates

ExcelPrintCSVPDFCopy
COUNTRYREGIONPOPULATIONINTERNET 
POPULATION
TOTAL REVENUES 
IN US DOLLARS
REVENUE 
RANK
REGIONAsiaEastern EuropeLatin AmericaMiddle East-AfricaNorth AmericaOceaniaWestern Europe
REGION
POPULATION INTERNET 
POPULATION
TOTAL REVENUES 
IN US DOLLARS
REVENUE 
RANK
United States of America North America 322,583,006 274,292,330 20,484,628,000 1
China Asia 1,393,783,836 701,073,270 17,866,677,000 2
Japan Asia 126,999,808 101,663,346 12,219,552,000 3
Germany Western Europe 82,652,256 71,080,940 3,528,196,000 4
United Kingdom Western Europe 63,489,234 55,476,893 3,426,259,000 5
Republic of Korea Asia 49,512,026 42,629,854 3,356,202,000 6
France Western Europe 64,641,279 56,237,913 2,608,818,000 7
Canada North America 35,524,732 31,890,552 1,717,991,000 8
Italy Western Europe 61,070,224 36,886,415 1,514,067,000 9
Spain Western Europe 47,066,402 37,370,723 1,489,366,000 10
Brazil Latin America 202,033,670 118,593,764 1,339,375,000 11
Russian Federation Eastern Europe 142,467,651 88,059,255 1,143,197,000 12
Australia Oceania 23,630,169 20,806,364 1,143,044,000 13
Mexico Latin America 123,799,215 56,130,564 1,006,072,000 14
Taiwan Asia 23,532,713 19,292,118 643,417,000 15


Read more at http://www.newzoo.com/free/rankings/top-100-countries-by-game-revenues/#SyGLeVxAFuZXCgmZ.99



Drazgonow said:


Really yet according to meta PS4 has the more better rated games.

So fact is PS4 > x1 game quality wise. 

Are you talking exclusives? I doubt it.

Even avid Sony fans admit 2014 wasn't a great year for Sony exclusives.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Drazgonow said:


Really yet according to meta PS4 has the more better rated games.

So fact is PS4 > x1 game quality wise. 

Are you talking exclusives? I doubt it.


They are not on X1 if they were they would have the same list.  So just get over it, PS4 has more better rated games.  But im sure youll spin it some way.



Drazgonow said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Zackasaurus-rex said:
The average German game console consumer is a lot smarter than the average US one. That makes it harder for MS to stay relevant there through marketing and giveaways alone when Sony provide better games, hardware, and services.

MS could step it up a little, but the only -really- strong thing they could do is better emulate Sony's creative role in the industry.

The arrogance of some Playstation fans is just amazing.


NAh in general they buy better products then other places, lots of quality cars are sold comapred to lets say lots of the crap that is sold else where.


Correct. But, hey, recognizing intelligent decisions is apparently "arrogant."

 

German consumers know quality better. They are also on average better educated, in addition to more culturally aware. This isn't just about German exceptionalism. It has a lot to do with how misinformed and uneducated the average US citizen is compared to the rest of the developed world.

 

I'm a US citizen, but I'm also a social scientist more than willing to admit basic structural truths.



aLkaLiNE said:
Vladimir7 said:
Zackasaurus-rex said:
The average German game console consumer is a lot smarter than the average US one. That makes it harder for MS to stay relevant there through marketing and giveaways alone when Sony provide better games, hardware, and services.

MS could step it up a little, but the only -really- strong thing they could do is better emulate Sony's creative role in the industry.


The average german game console consumer is smarter?

Services, microsoft provides more, look at xbox one features vs ps4. LOOK AT UPDATES, please. 

Hardware, goes to ps4. 

Games, really? BETTER games? Halo MCC, sunset overdrive, Forza horizon 2 beat driveclub, how does ps4 currently in this season, have the better games? 

Anyways, i think microsoft should focus on US and UK. biggest markets. US alone accounts for more than the rest of the world COMBINED. 


FH2 is available on 360.  MS provides more services in which way? Please tell me aside from XBL and Music what exactly they provide.

Sony has PS+, Music Unlimited, Video Unlimited, PSNow and soon it's own TV streaming service. All owned, operated and provided by Sony.

Games are a toss up. MCC had/s major online issues and literally every thing offered there is, was and has been offered on older platforms.

Lol, microsoft has xbox music, and xbox video, but thats not even the services i meant, Hulu, HBO go, showtime, alot of network programs fron fox, nbc and cw. heck if you check urself there are more apps on Xbox one than ps4. 

Even services like EA access too! Dont get me started on psNow even sony fanboys say its a joke. Have you seen the prices?? 

 

Tell me one, JUST ONE, platform that allowed you to play 4 games, all on one disc, 100+ multiplayer maps, 4000 gamerscore, and with two of the 4 games being upgraded from their original version. comes with a beta 1 year in advance of release of the next in the series. and a free full produced show.



Vladimir7 said:
aLkaLiNE said:
Vladimir7 said:
Zackasaurus-rex said:
The average German game console consumer is a lot smarter than the average US one. That makes it harder for MS to stay relevant there through marketing and giveaways alone when Sony provide better games, hardware, and services.

MS could step it up a little, but the only -really- strong thing they could do is better emulate Sony's creative role in the industry.


The average german game console consumer is smarter?

Services, microsoft provides more, look at xbox one features vs ps4. LOOK AT UPDATES, please. 

Hardware, goes to ps4. 

Games, really? BETTER games? Halo MCC, sunset overdrive, Forza horizon 2 beat driveclub, how does ps4 currently in this season, have the better games? 

Anyways, i think microsoft should focus on US and UK. biggest markets. US alone accounts for more than the rest of the world COMBINED. 


FH2 is available on 360.  MS provides more services in which way? Please tell me aside from XBL and Music what exactly they provide.

Sony has PS+, Music Unlimited, Video Unlimited, PSNow and soon it's own TV streaming service. All owned, operated and provided by Sony.

Games are a toss up. MCC had/s major online issues and literally every thing offered there is, was and has been offered on older platforms.

Lol, microsoft has xbox music, and xbox video, but thats not even the services i meant, Hulu, HBO go, showtime, alot of network programs fron fox, nbc and cw. heck if you check urself there are more apps on Xbox one than ps4. 

Even services like EA access too! Dont get me started on psNow even sony fanboys say its a joke. Have you seen the prices?? 

 

Tell me one, JUST ONE, platform that allowed you to play 4 games, all on one disc, 100+ multiplayer maps, 4000 gamerscore, and with two of the 4 games being upgraded from their original version. comes with a beta 1 year in advance of release of the next in the series. and a free full produced show.

you also forgot the power of the cloud