DonFerrari said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
you cant knock free dlc. but yeah, the cole's legacy content is what i was referring to.
youre talking a lot about remakes and remasters, nintendo doesnt remake or remaster games that came out a year ago. thats another annoying thing about the library of the other two consoles at the moment. its clear that priorities are different in these two camps (which is my main point, that philosophies are different). nintendo doesnt lower their price for years, but that also means that your game is worth more. people are going to pay 60 dollars for, say, infamous.. but in a year that game will get you maybe 4 dollars in cash. shit, you can trade in smash bros brawl and mario party 8 at gamestop still and get almost ten dollars in cash for either of those. so there are two sides to that argument. if its a game i want, im going to be paying full price anyway, but the difference is, since nintendo doesnt lower their prices, their games are worth more. and even when nitnendo discontinues the games, the prices go up just because nintendo games are worth more to the market. so again, there are two sides to that coin.
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I was talking about HD collections... I'm certain Sly, Ratchet, GoW , Jak and Daxter, PoP, FFX, DMC and other collections weren't a year old games when released, same with Halo MCC. Sure you can complain about TLOUR (that is more like a late port, but you don't have a problem with MK7 or SSB... you can say all you want about the games and the differences, but they are closer to TLOUR situation than to a full new release)... and if we were to talk about milking most Sony games either have 1-2 outputs per gen or are release on one gen and them release a new IP... but whatever.
On the value of the games... you were talking about bang per buk... so an PS/Xbox game by 20 dollars is more bang per buck than an WiiU for 60 (considering you like both games, if not one game you like for 120 outweight 10 games for 30 bucks all in). And I don't resell my games, just buy some used/discounted. So a game selling for 4 when you trade in and they reselling it for 40 or a game you selling for 10 and they reselling for 50 is no consequential for me, even more when you are able to buy the first new for 30 and the second you must pay 60.
Your game isn't worth the same just because a company manipulate the market with riging.
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i dont want to use the term milking, because the mods might get all uppity if i say that, but sony puts out many more games/year of the same franchise than nintendo does. it is a fact that nintendo "milks" less than sony if you look at it as games/year. which i think is a fair way to assess how often a company uses a franchise. and yeah, sony released a lot of hd collections for ps3.. but why put out, what was it, 3 different god of war hd collections? it was either 2 or 3. and these hd collections are simple cash grabs. theyre sloppily made and put out just to grab a few bucks. again, this is a difference in philosophy. nintendo doesnt really participate in any of that. and when they do, its something that is really valuable and seen as a gem. for example, the metroid prime trilogy. that was a very well made collection, and you got to experience the first two games in a completely different way than you did on the GC.
on the value of games again.. you dont seem to be understanding what im saying. i get that if you really like a game, then 20 dollars is way better than 60.. but im talking about the value of a brand new game, right when it comes out. when you buy a brand new nitnendo game, most of the time you dont have to worry about that game devaluing any time soon, if at all. i never resell my games either, but we are talking about value here, and the fact is that if you have nintendo games lying around your house, you can get some money for them. that is value. you pay the same amount for a brand new game, but the nintendo game is going to be more valuable. you may not like the reason for that, but you cant really argue that point.. that nintendo games are inherently more value whether nintendo keeps the price high or not. when nitnendo discontinues things, the market still says theyre valuable. if you dont accept that, then look at the bayonetta 2 example. when was the last time you have seen a company give you something like that at no extra cost? and thats value to the consumer because you can see what happened in the first game without getting a whole new console or buying a whole new game. mario kart dlc, thats value. 12 dollars for 8 tracks and 6 characters is way more value that we have seen in dlc since dlc was ever a thing. tell me a dlc that you have seen that offers so much for so little. nintendo also offered value just for simply buying mario kart, you got a $60 dollar game for free to download. those were good games too.. and you got a choice of 4. when have you seen a company offer so much for doing something so basic? these are three examples from this generation alone and i havent seen this kind of value offered from the other two companies. if they have done something like any of this, please let me know.
