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When will people realize that if they drop the Game Pad that it wouldn't do much for the price of the Wii U? Devs expect it, games expect it. Selling it separate will be it's death and that's just as stupid. The Game Pad isn't some alien tech that's very costly to make. Development may have been pricey but since that has already been done it's down to manufacturing cost. And guess what? They would have to integrate almost everything presently in the Game Pad into a new model Pro controller or sell it as separate stuff. Like for instance the gyro's and NFC capabilities. So they would need to redesign the pro controller and include it in the box. This raises the price of the Pro controller to make and the only difference with the game pad would be the camera, screen and Wi-Fi stuff. Anyone who things that this size and type of touchscreen, camera module and Wi-Fi chip cost MORE than 20-25 dollars in big quantities needs their head checked.

So to be frank, from a business point of view it's stupid to do it at this stage of the console life. They have more coming that's using it and it would need a thorough redesign of games, UI and other controllers to make some type of working solution. It's a cost/effort vs returns type of thing. And to be frank, Nintendo isn't a backpedal type of company. So accept it. It will not happen. No matter what games you play that don't need it. No matter how often you say you don't like it. No matter what they could do with the price of the system. No matter all thos things and more. It is here and it is here to stay.

To me the Game Pad feels awesome. I love it's size, weight and ergonomics. I don't have any problem with the battery either. I play for a few hours and take a break, I charge it in the meantime. I have my brightness in the lowest or the one above that and it lasts me basically all day. And the one time or two times every few months it does go empty I'll just plug in the long cable that comes with it and play on while charging. But for everyone like me that neither sees it's removal as a solution or it's design and batterylife as good there is some who will hate the shit out of it. Well guess what, this same type of talk was already there for all consoles in the past. Some people prefer A, some Z, deal with it. At least with Nintendo you have a choice if the game allows it. But is that a good thing? No, only people seem to be able to do is bitch and moan about it.



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yvanjean said:

What we need in redesign:

1. Quietter consoles. 
2. Bigger harddrive.
3. WiiU without gamepad just a WiiU Controller Pro.
4. WiiU without the power brick. 
5. Blu-ray video support. Not sure if this is possible and still run the WiiU optical disc.
6. Increase Ram and processor, Not for games performance but faster loading menu and load times.
7. Cost need to be under $250.00.
8. Color, I loved my Platinum colored Gamecube. 

Platinum color WiiU for $250 featuring wisper quiet console with faster loadings time, 250 GB HD and WiiU controller Pro (gamepad sold separately). 

We get it, you don't like the gamepad.



I don't really agree with points 1-5, specially the one regarding the power brick.. It would be awesome to have a platinum colored WiiU though!



                
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First they need more good games in bundles. Like one AAA title (disc) and two AA (downlods) in single bundle like:

1.bundle: MK8, Zelda WW, Mario 3D World + bonus Pikmin 3
2.bundle: Smash, Mario+Luigi Bros, Kong + bonus Pikmin 3

For 300$ this could sells like hotcakes with no cost for Nintendo !



yvanjean said:
Mystro-Sama said:

Would you people just drop this gamepadless argument!? It's so annoying...

It's not gamepadless, Gamepad just sold separately. Nintendo themself don't know how to incorporate the gamepad to make good video games. 

The gamepad is a failure, only five games come to mind that really use it NintendoLand, ZombiU, scribblenauts, Game & wario and Wii Party U.

When super smash and mario kart 8 failled to really use the gamepad that's when you know it's useless fisher price add-on. I'm sure Zelda U will use it but there will be WiiU controller Pro control option. 

Just about every game uses the Gamepad. The key is to us it the right way for each game and they have done a pretty good job of that. You don't want to force uses of the pad. Then people will start complaining about over uses. But still, the pad is essenital to the console and dropping it as add on would be stupid.



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yvanjean said:

What we need in redesign:

1. Quietter consoles. 
2. Bigger harddrive.
3. WiiU without gamepad just a WiiU Controller Pro.
4. WiiU without the power brick. 
5. Blu-ray video support. Not sure if this is possible and still run the WiiU optical disc.
6. Increase Ram and processor, Not for games performance but faster loading menu and load times.
7. Cost need to be under $250.00.
8. Color, I loved my Platinum colored Gamecube. 

Platinum color WiiU for $250 featuring wisper quiet console with faster loadings time, 250 GB HD and WiiU controller Pro (gamepad sold separately). 

I agree withthe numbers 2 (well, bigger Flash Drive to be precise), 4 (IF possible in such a small case) and 8 (more choice is always better, and would be a nice chance from the usual black-or-white consoles nowadays).

Number 7 will come anyway someday (probably mid 2015)

Number 1 is silly, as quiet as the Wii U is

Number 3 is just plain dumb. An upgrade of the Gamepad with more battery life and higher resolution screen however would be nice.

Number 5 would need a different drive, one who could play both. The risc being it being used more for pirated discs than for actual Blu-Ray movies probably prevents this.

Number 6 can be pretty useless depening on what exactly is the bottleneck, and would need expensive redesigns in production. So no.

One major problem though: almost all of these changes would be quite expensive, so these would certainly prevent Number 7 to happen. Flash memory could be expanded to 64 GiB due to the price drop of the latter in the last years, but not much more without raising the pricetag. Hardware upgrades and redesigns make them more expensive.

Long story short, only the last point seems really doable right now.



A slim Wii U launching with a price drop that looked alot different then the current console could help propel sales to a somewhat respectable level. After this weeks U.S sales, I just don't know what to say. Nintendo really needs ot get their shit together and quick.



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yvanjean said:

 

What we need in redesign: ?

1. Quietter consoles. Its already really quiet

2. Bigger harddrive. This will obviously come, althought i makes better business sense for them to release an external nintendo branded hd
3. WiiU without gamepad just a WiiU Controller Pro. ugh, so a weak ps4?
4. WiiU without the power brick. I'm not sure how this would make any difference
5. Blu-ray video support. Not sure if this is possible and still run the WiiU optical disc. It's cheaper to buy a blu ray player and this would put the console at higher risk of failure.
6. Increase Ram and processor, Not for games performance but faster loading menu and load times. So a whole new console then and new games would not play on the older Wii U?
7. Cost need to be under $250.00. So a whole new console that costs less but is as powerful as a ps4?
8. Color, I loved my Platinum colored Gamecube. Something that will arrive

Platinum color WiiU for $250 featuring wisper quiet console with faster loadings time, 250 GB HD and WiiU controller Pro (gamepad sold separately). For $250? Even if it was made in China's cheapest factory, this business plan is not even remotely possible. Cut the price, add a larger harddrive and a more expensive processor and still include games? They would effectively be giving away the console for free.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

#1 The console is already pretty quiet, how much quieter do you want? loll. Its mostly just the sound of the disc spinning...

No, it was one of the first things I noticed, that WiiU is substantially more noisy than the Wii. More silent than the PS3 though.



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With your options i think the console would look bigger and more expensive! :D

The redesign is something Wii U really needs and i think the reason it hasn't got one so far is because of the deals (price parts) Nintendo made and the amount of consoles still in stock (probably the reason why Nintendo bundled the basic console with Smash in Spain).

The redesign really needs to change the looks of the console, the gamepad and even the boxart. And change the name too.
In other words: re-launch it!

Also, would be cool if, when launching the redesign, Nintendo came out every month with a special edition remembering it's past: one edition for the NES, SNES, N64 and GC. Each containing Nintendo's launch games at the time, plus an original controller.

Nintendo doesn't have system sellers probably until Starfox comes out and surely won't drop the price by 100$.
This could very well be a way to attract those older gamers - now dads and moms.