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lol

its like "pervert that masturbates into other peoples food helping cook the meal for president at luxury hotel"



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TRAVIS!!! said:
Wow. People really think her involvement as a consultant could ruin the game? I'm guessing she's simply going to help the team to avoid potentially sexist tropes, which isn't a bad thing if you ask me.

If they actually cared about tropes, I'm sure they could research tvtropes just as well as Anita did.



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:

I have to say i just love see the misogynistic crowd go freacking insane with this , its so funny, way better than when she was in the television show, the tears are delicious lol


and a petition?

I think you're lost....here:

https://www.tumblr.com/



To go offcourse a little, is there even a thing as tropes in gaming.
It's easy to search minute moments in gaming for examples of women as sexual objects.
But in fairness, the whole game doesnt sell around the idea of fantasising women.

God of war 3 has a sex scene. No one buys GOW3 to have sex with that character, they buy it for the gore kratos provides.
GTA has strip clubs, and prostitutes. GTA is a recreation of modern day America and its cultures. I live in UK, but I am well aware of there being strip clubs in America, and there definitely is prostitutionism.
If we get rid of these scenarios, then what's to stop the drunk folks complaining, the gay community complaining.

We have strong female lead characters in games where it makes sense to the STORY. Faith, Lara, Ellie. I'd argue these characters couldnt be swapped with males and ultimately have the same story.
Likewise, slap boobs on main characters in an attempt to make gaming inclusive to females (as if it isnt already) is anti-climactic, if anything it's more offensive to women who I feel would rather be represented (if they do feel represented by game characters) by strong, dedicated written characters who were designed for the world around them.

The last of us wouldnt feel the same with a character like Lara Croft, likewise Joel wouldnt fit in the fast paced action world of tomb raider.
Gaming is fine how it is. This is an attempt to sell an idea that gamers are mysoginistic by picking out a few scenes in popular games and pointing the apparent anti-feminine status.

If females want to completely stop the use of females as sexual objects, prostitutes, strippers and low-cut dressed women, then sort the problem in real life, because gaming is a mix of fantasy and real life worlds to create a relatable experience.

Or make your own game. Just don't infect ours.
-fireburn95



Some people take their hobby way too seriously.

I don't know who this woman is and don't care. She doesn't affect my life. She seemingly affects the lives of some for her actions for some reason.



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brighat said:
Some people take their hobby way too seriously.

I don't know who this woman is and don't care. She doesn't affect my life. She seemingly affects the lives of some for her actions for some reason.


Do you like games? Yes?

Then this probably will affect you one day, when the quality of games reduces because of her agenda to make games more inclusive to women.

1) Easier controls (apparently for women)
2) Forced female leads (even if it doesnt make sense in the story)
3) Females represented non-sexually (Yeah because there aren't any prostitutes in the real world, and some women actually like to dress nice)

Also, this specific petition affects women, since she claims to speaks for women when she makes decisions to make games easier, and invoke a female-specific response.

But it affects the quality of games we love, for all.



This petition is as silly as those parent or church groups who petition because Marilyn Manson or Judas Priest, or any other inoffensive rock star is playing their town, "corrupting youth", and "spreading satan's influence".  Let Anita work on the game in whatever capacity she has been hired for.  If it results in a shitty game, she won't be asked back again.  

This petition (if successful) amounts to censorship.  And censorship is bullshit of the highest order.



fireburn95 said:
brighat said:
Some people take their hobby way too seriously.

I don't know who this woman is and don't care. She doesn't affect my life. She seemingly affects the lives of some for her actions for some reason.


Do you like games? Yes?

Then this probably will affect you one day, when the quality of games reduces because of her agenda to make games more inclusive to women.

1) Easier controls (apparently for women)
2) Forced female leads (even if it doesnt make sense in the story)
3) Females represented non-sexually (Yeah because there aren't any prostitutes in the real world, and some women actually like to dress nice)

Also, this specific petition affects women, since she claims to speaks for women when she makes decisions to make games easier, and invoke a female-specific response.

But it affects the quality of games we love, for all.

If any of those things in your list happen (and the first one has been gradually happening for years), it's because society has allowed for it to happen.  Not because of one woman fighting for whatever it is she believes in.



Not signing.

She may not be an artist, but an art critic doesn't have to be. Rallying to silence her is simply put, a juvenile, knee-jerk reaction that, in a broader context, only serves to silence a feminist perspective. In this case, trying to shoot the messenger does more to legitimize her concerns about the industry as it demonstratively showcases how the Male Defense Force responds to the mere possibility of a fairer portrayal of the genders in this artistic medium.

Get over it. Just as there is sexism and misogyny in every other entertainment medium in spite of feminist movements, these things that you find dear to the realm of video games will survive and thrive even if Anita's influence magnifies a hundred fold. Just sit back, see what happens, and critique the final product. That's what secured her role as a consultant anyhow. The development team clearly listens to its critics, so Mirror's Edge 2 may be a learning experience for gamer and developer alike.

There's no sense in becoming hysterical at this stage.



DeadNotSleeping said:
Not signing.

She may not be an artist, but an art critic doesn't have to be. Rallying to silence her is simply put, a juvenile, knee-jerk reaction that, in a broader context, only serves to silence a feminist perspective. In this case, trying to shoot the messenger does more to legitimize her concerns about the industry as it demonstratively showcases how the Male Defense Force responds to the mere possibility of a fairer portrayal of the genders in this artistic medium.

Get over it. Just as there is sexism and misogyny in every other entertainment medium in spite of feminist movements, these things that you find dear to the realm of video games will survive and thrive even if Anita's influence magnifies a hundred fold. Just sit back, see what happens, and critique the final product. That's what secured her role as a consultant anyhow. The development team clearly listens to its critics, so Mirror's Edge 2 may be a learning experience for gamer and developer alike.

There's no sense in becoming hysterical at this stage.

Great post!