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LinkTheHuman on 07 December 2014
XanderXT said:
LinkTheHuman said:

First off, rating a gameplay trailer off of how many 'views' it has on youtube has many flaws.  

To begin with 'replays' count for views as well. Not to mention the 'Playstation' youtube chanell has more subs then the 'Nintendo' chanel, therefore more people would've been alerted to the trailer. 

Second off, no Nintendo fan (outside of Nintendo fans who have subsribed to Ninendo) would've expected Zelda gameplay to be shown off at the game awards. And when they did find out, it was most likely from a seperate news channell, (ign, machinima, polygon, kotaku etc). 

So unless one amassed the views (clicks) from all the different sources that posted the trailer videos, one can't tell how much attention the trailer truly received. 

Not to mention rating the quality and hype generted from a trailer off of its view count is unorthadox, and ineffecient to see how much hype it's collecting.  

Syting Journalists (good ones), fans, gamers etc. would be a better way to analyse how much hype a trailer has created. ( I still can't decide on which trailer did it's job the best).  

I honestly feel as though I've just been pulled into a clickbait forum.

Exactly. People are just using this as ammo against Nintendo.

IKR, How well a trailer does it's job should be analysed by seeing the amount and percentage of good feedback from the gaming community on said subject, instead of just recording raw data.

eg. the Star wars 7 trailer is fantastic, all the recreations, parodies, theories, rewinds, articles and lightsaber talk is proof of that. It's a star wars trailer, it was always going to get an insanely high number of 'views' on youtube, but you know it's good from all the positive feedback it's gotten. 

In this case Uncharted is the same, it was always going to get a high view count, but that doesn't mean the trailer does it's purpose better then its competition.



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Wighead on 07 December 2014
ganoncrotch said:
FarleyMcFirefly said:
Good thing I read through first and saw that this was about number of views.

I thought this was a fanboy thread at first.

Man though, Zelda is gonna be amazing!


Aye tis very clear from this that Uncharted will be a better game than Zelda-U also both of them will not be as good as a guy hitting himself in the dick with a stick because that video on youtube has more views and #owmydickhurts trended more.

Better? Maybe for you and  uncharted fans. It sure looks great, but for me it's just another realistic shooter/adventure without any real innovation to it. Move, jump, shoot, hide, it looks fun but not ground breaking or different enought to wow me. I will try it as uncharted games are ok games but grafics are not all there is.



TK14 on 07 December 2014

Nintendo was just throwing a bone to the Game Awards and to the fan base in general. If the Zelda reveal was 15 minutes of direct-feed footage (like Uncharted 4) instead of 4 minutes of off-screen footage on a strangely angled TV with almost no audio since there was talking and voiceovers, then it would have been an even bigger deal. People now know what UC4 will look like, whereas Zelda still needs to show/present real audio, a proper title, a proper trailer, and some direct feed gameplay footage...which will make its next appearance in a Direct or at E3 much more hype-able than just "more footage" of UC4 will be.

That being said, BOTH games look fantastic from what I've seen! :)



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LipeJJ on 07 December 2014
alternine said:
Uncharted 4 is going to be massive. Dont really see Zelda standing a chance :/


A chance of what?

Sales? Zelda sold much more overall (captain obvious moment) and the sales of the lastest games in both franchises are similar.

Quality? Zelda is recognized as one of the best franchises in the whole industry for a long time (lots of people even consider it THE best of all).

Popularity? Being on the industry since the 80's gave Zelda the status quo of one of it's biggest icons. I mean, come on, most of older people would have no idea of what "Uncharted" is.

 

OT: Well, they're close, and you have to remember that the Zelda reveal was a surprise, while the Uncharted one was adversited for a long time.



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riderz13371 on 07 December 2014
LipeJJ said:
alternine said:
Uncharted 4 is going to be massive. Dont really see Zelda standing a chance :/


A chance of what?

Sales? Zelda sold much more overall (captain obvious moment) and the sales of the lastest games in both franchises are similar.

Quality? Zelda is recognized as one of the best franchises in the whole industry for a long time (lots of people even consider it THE best of all).

 

OT: Well, they're close, and you have to remember that the Zelda reveal was a surprise, while the Uncharted one was adversited for a long time.

What did the last mainline Zelda game sell?

What did he last mainline Uncharted game sell?



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LipeJJ on 07 December 2014
riderz13371 said:
LipeJJ said:
alternine said:
Uncharted 4 is going to be massive. Dont really see Zelda standing a chance :/


A chance of what?

Sales? Zelda sold much more overall (captain obvious moment) and the sales of the lastest games in both franchises are similar.

Quality? Zelda is recognized as one of the best franchises in the whole industry for a long time (lots of people even consider it THE best of all).

 

OT: Well, they're close, and you have to remember that the Zelda reveal was a surprise, while the Uncharted one was adversited for a long time.

What did the last mainline Zelda game sell?

What did he last mainline Uncharted game sell?

Difficult to say exactly since VGC tracking is really bad and they seem to have stopped tracking SS a long time ago. But, please take a look...

 

"As of December 2011, the game has recorded 3.41 million units of sales worldwide."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Skyward_Sword#Sales

It's very reasonable to assume it sold at least an extra million in the last 2 years, no?

What about Uncharted 3? It sold like 6 or 7 million to date if I remember correctly. Then, it's really audacious to say that Zelda U has "no chances" against U4, since Zelda historically sells better and the latest mainline game in both franchises haven't sold THAT differently.

You could've said that U4 will sell better, and I would give you the benefit of doubt, since this is very possible. But it's not written in stone.



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CDiablo on 07 December 2014

If the sales havent told you, Sony has a much larger fanbase than Nintendo.



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riderz13371 on 07 December 2014
CDiablo said:
If the sales havent told you, Sony has a much larger fanbase than Nintendo.

That doesn't mean much. Wii had a higher install base and still Uncharted sold better overall.



CDiablo on 07 December 2014
riderz13371 said:
CDiablo said:
If the sales havent told you, Sony has a much larger fanbase than Nintendo.

That doesn't mean much. Wii had a higher install base and still Uncharted sold better overall.

Fanbase not install base. The Wii sold well outside of the Nintendo fanbase, well outside the gamer circle. The Wii U is a true representation of what the Nintendo fanbase is. I would say first year sales of the X1/PS4 are representative of their fanbases as well as both consoles brought very little to the table outside of what last gen still brings(cross gen games and such).



Getting an XBOX One for me is like being in a bad relationship but staying together because we have kids. XBone we have 20000+ achievement points, 2+ years of XBL Gold and 20000+ MS points. I think its best we stay together if only for the MS points.

Nintendo Treehouse is what happens when a publisher is confident and proud of its games and doesn't need to show CGI lies for five minutes.

-Jim Sterling

riderz13371 on 07 December 2014
CDiablo said:
riderz13371 said:
CDiablo said:
If the sales havent told you, Sony has a much larger fanbase than Nintendo.

That doesn't mean much. Wii had a higher install base and still Uncharted sold better overall.

Fanbase not install base. The Wii sold well outside of the Nintendo fanbase, well outside the gamer circle. The Wii U is a true representation of what the Nintendo fanbase is. I would say first year sales of the X1/PS4 are representative of their fanbases as well as both consoles brought very little to the table that last gen still brings(cross gen games and such).

Ok sorry.