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Oh yeah backwords compatibility will be much easier to do next time around.  I fully agree...Well except for the 4K part.  The fact is that these consoles do support 4K at 30 FPS, and I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the weaker games on PSN offered a 4K option near the end of the generation.

However the best (Single) card at playing 4K right now is the 290X, and it still costs $400.  That simply wasn't an option, and 4K adoption won't be even near where 1080p was last gen for another 5 years.  By then GPU's will run it no problem.

Don't forget that people were running 3x1080p eyefinity and 1600p displays around when the PS3 launched...

I disagree on the 4k part though.  1080p TVs were $2,500 and up for a 40 inch model when the PS3/360 came out.

I can get a 55 inch Samsung 4k tv today for $1,200(even less, $900 on Black Friday).  4k tv's are dropping in price much faster than true HD(1080p) ever did.  The truth is, the cost for manufacturers isn't that much higher to go to 4k.  As a result, it isn't that hard for them to put out lower cost tv's if they WANT to.  Usually electronics companies try to milk new tech for high margins for a long time.  With 4k, they seem to be abandoning that theory quickly to maintain market relevence.

So, I think that 4k market penetration in the US/Western Europe /Far eastern Asia areas will increase dramatically in the next 3 years.

Just an added thought, small games doing 30fps in 4k will not impress many people.  That's what will make the next gen look actually impressive.  True 4k at 60fps.

I agree that 4K displays are becoming more obtainable at a faster rate than 1080p TV's were, but I also don't think people will see as big of a need to upgrade.  1080p wasn't just  4x the resolution of 480i, it was thinner, quieter, used WAYYYY less energy, provided a better aspect ration, and also brought ubsanely better colors and contrast.

4K is great, but in and of itself it is simply a way bigger resolution.  I am personally waiting for OLED (Or some equivalent tech) TV's so that not only does it look more crisp, but it also looks more vibrant as well.

I'm just not seeing the same excitement around 4K as  I saw around 1080p.  We will see though.



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The positions are set and they aren't going to change: PS4>XBO>Wii U. They only competition really left is who will win the US & UK.




No.

MS is going to take America by storm.  Ya know, the only country that spends mad amounts of money on games. 



Captain_Tom said:

4K is great, but in and of itself it is simply a way bigger resolution.  I am personally waiting for OLED (Or some equivalent tech) TV's so that not only does it look more crisp, but it also looks more vibrant as well.

I'm just not seeing the same excitement around 4K as  I saw around 1080p.  We will see though.

As simple as it sounds, the jump in resolution from 1080p to 4k greatly increases the detail of the picture.The detail increases way too much for my taste actually.I'd say the only thing that benefits from that increase in detail would be games.

e.g.: In some of sony's 4k remasters you can even see the pores in people's faces,trust me it is not the most pleasant experience when watching a movie,I can't even begin to imagine how awful 8k movies will look like...

As for games,the increase in detail makes everything stand out really nicely, and makes you notice even the most minor thing,it makes games look even better than on my 1080p OLED tv. 



Kirin_gaming said:

Captain_Tom said:

4K is great, but in and of itself it is simply a way bigger resolution.  I am personally waiting for OLED (Or some equivalent tech) TV's so that not only does it look more crisp, but it also looks more vibrant as well.

I'm just not seeing the same excitement around 4K as  I saw around 1080p.  We will see though.

As simple as it sounds, the jump in resolution from 1080p to 4k greatly increases the detail of the picture.The detail increases way too much for my taste actually.I'd say the only thing that benefits from that increase in detail would be games.

e.g.: In some of sony's 4k remasters you can even see the pores in people's faces,trust me it is not the most pleasant experience when watching a movie,I can't even begin to imagine how awful 8k movies will look like...

As for games,the increase in detail makes everything stand out really nicely, and makes you notice even the most minor thing,it makes games look even better than on my 1080p OLED tv. 

Dude I know what 4K looks like.  My brother (Whom I live with half of the year) has one, and my parents have a 4K TV.  I am well aware of how much better it looks, and to me it is amazing.  However more casual people seem to not care as much, and these are the same people who jumped for the joy at the sight of 1080p.

P.S. I watched Breaking Bad in 4K.  I saw Heisenburg's  pores.



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The thing with 1080p/4k is that 4k looks nice yes, but it's not like 1080p looks terrible after switching back like going from HD to SD does.

A lot of broadcast signals are still not even 1080p, most are still 720p to boot, lol. It will be a look time before TV switches over to 4K.

It's like CD from cassette ... a lot of people felt that was a tangible jump, but CD to Audio DVD or Super Audio CD ... while it's better yes, most people simply didn't care.



Metroid33slayer said:
Demesne said:

Seeing it dominate +70% in many markets already, at current price and with the library being what it is.

It will only dominate even more later on, just imagine European sales when its price hits half of what it is now and with GT MGS Uncharted FF15 GTA out on it.  Maybe 90% market share.  


Ninety percent marketshare lol! Ok lets just hypothetically say the lifetime sales of xboxone reach 55m and 20m for wii u then the ps4 would need to sell a minimum of 675m to achieve a marketshare of 90%. I think someone has escaped from the asylum.

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X1 will never hit that, a little over half is more realistic.  In Europe 90% is really not that far fetched, wiiu sales are plain bad and X1 is irrelevant everyhwere but UK.  PS4 at a lower price and some big software will steam roll then there.  



PS4: 140 million
One: 85 million
WiiU: 40 million



LordLichtenstein said:
PS4: 140 million
One: 85 million
WiiU: 40 million

It depends how long the Gen will last.

I would say :

PS4: 120M

XOne : 70M

WiiU : 25M



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I think the PS4 will dominate the shrinking console market. The overall video game market will continue to see a shift to mobile and PC. 



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