| The_Sony_Girl1 said: This is just stupid. Why would you need to do that? What if you're new to this country? What then? |
I think people new to our country would probably do better than citizens born here.
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pepharytheworm said:
I think people new to our country would probably do better than citizens born here. |
Are Americans that lazy?
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akhmenhawk said:
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Shut down ideas, not groups.
Besides, a broken clock is right twice a day, right? :P
No, it's more like US citizen tests are usually made so people will fail. Info the average American would never need or use in life. But we are pretty lazy in a lot of ways or more spoiled. If I moved to another country I would definitely study up on my new country. Were as when you are born somewhere and have generations being born there, you start to take things for granted.
High schools definitely need more of a focus on civics, that's for damn sure. Standardized tests have ruined it in favor of math and english.
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spurgeonryan said:
You say this, but you know it to be the complete opposite. Have you seen people complaining about minimum wage? Have you seen every one going crazy over the 10-15 dollar an hour proposed Minum wage?
These are million of Americans who most likely did horrible in school, who are now trying to force a raise that they really do not deserve all because they basically did not want to work hard as kids. Now they expect something for nothing.
Not to be rude. I had a minimum wage job, despite the three degrees I have. I worked hard an am now making a lot more. But the point is we have millions upon millions of Americans who barely even pass high school or pass the GED and now you expect them to pass some citizenship test? Why? They are already citizens. Why are kids now days treated any different than kids of the past? What is me knowing the Capital of Puerto Rico going to do for me in life? Do I need to know the 23 President? Did that President do any better of a job as any recent Presidents who are being controlled by Special interest groups and their own interests? We need to teach kids about our country so they can actually vote properly? Does it matter? It is always one or the other Parties and they always do horribly. There really is no point to the Citizenship test other than to make sure that immigrants really truly want to be part of our country, and not just come here to mooch off our Welfare via certain loopholes in our laws.
Citizenship test requirements is probably the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my entire life! Or not, because I am not in high school and I do not care. Lol, my kids are going to hate it! |
You know, it is kind of sad that you dont realize that all the points you just mentioned are already in the required curriculum students are already taught...
also, it is not the complete opposite. If a student doesnt want to learn, they dont want to learn. Dumbing down the curriculum isnt going to help them any and will only make it worse and less effective for everybody else. They may want to go back later in life and get that education, but until they are willing to put forth the bare minimum effort, they should not be accomodated!
You seem to be against students learning, or being required to learn things. Those points you mention give students a FOUNDATION of knowledge that can be built upon in numerous important ways that can benefit them in many different careers and daily life. You and many others seem to struggle with the relavance of things learned in school, but you fail to grasp that for the most part, the things you learn in school is foundational and is neccessary for future learning and development.
akhmenhawk said:
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wow, youre intelligent
This country needs to focus on getting good teachers and properly funding the school system before we add anymore test for these kids. My daughter is literally having to share books because the school cant afford anymore. I thought it was cause her school isn't in the best part of town but then my cousin who lives in one of the richest areas around has been dealing with the same thing. They literally make photocopies of the book for the kids to take home. So they can afford to waste all that paper but just buying the book is to much.
i dont understand why you are hating on minimum wage. 10$ isnt so much. we have 8,50€ minimum wage in germany and its fine(well before the state payed the rent for most of the people who now get minimum wage)
okay, living in germany is cheaper i guess(i need 20€ for food if i dont eat outside and pay 240€ rent a month for a nice room inside the city) but that just mean the 8,50€ buy more than 10$.
do you want people with bad education to starve? or to work 2 fulltime jobs?
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