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vivster said:
HollyGamer said:
vivster said:
AnthonyW86 said:


Why so serious? Barely anyone buys these type of cards anyway. They are complete overkill and have terrible resale value once a new line of cards is released. All that power is barely going to be used anyway.

how can anyone say this if high end cards are still having trouble to deliver locked 60fps on current games on 1080p?

As soon as Nvidia releases the Titan 2 or whatever full maxwell will be called I will get one. And you know what? I will play with it on 1080p and I still won't have all games running at a locked 60fps.

It's not about card performance it's a matter of games design and optimization, for example games like Dark soul 2 and Evil within and especially ACU is bad in optimization, heck even on 2007 games like crysis had the same problem. High end card for PC is good, but enthusiast card for gamin "only " is over price and only useful if you are game designer or 3D artist.

The reason why games run badly is irrelevant. The fact is that the games don't run well and could run better with stronger hardware. It's not like we can make the developers optimize better by buying weaker hardware. So we pretty much have to do their work for them by stocking up.

While the games actually can run good  in the future patch, i guess it's your decision anyway and if you want to spend for just to bump frame rate 10-20% frame rates and consider a small  resolution increase. I just want to give advice it's better to wait most games will look the same for another 3-4 years. Most developer still use Unreal Engine 4 and Cry 3 engine. It will not make more realistic then like today standard.



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HollyGamer said:

While the games actually can run good  in the future patch, i guess it's your decision anyway and if you want to spend for just to bump frame rate 10-20% frame rates and consider a small  resolution increase. I just want to give advice it's better to wait most games will look the same for another 3-4 years. Most developer still use Unreal Engine 4 and Cry 3 engine. It will not make more realistic then like today standard.

I'm already sacrificing in visual fidelity for a stable 60fps. The less I have to sacrifice, the better. I won#t overspend on hardware either. My current card is a 680, so the the switch to the new full Maxwell chip will be quite noticeable and I'm expecting to be able to run most games stable on ultra or close to it. Though I'm never deluding myself again to expect that high end cards will make every game run smooth.

The more complex the games get the less developers will be inclined to optimize everything. I expect recommended hardware specs to increase radically this gen. So there really is no such thing as "strong enough" hardware or unutilized power. Which was my original point.



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vivster said:
HollyGamer said:

While the games actually can run good  in the future patch, i guess it's your decision anyway and if you want to spend for just to bump frame rate 10-20% frame rates and consider a small  resolution increase. I just want to give advice it's better to wait most games will look the same for another 3-4 years. Most developer still use Unreal Engine 4 and Cry 3 engine. It will not make more realistic then like today standard.

I'm already sacrificing in visual fidelity for a stable 60fps. The less I have to sacrifice, the better. I won#t overspend on hardware either. My current card is a 680, so the the switch to the new full Maxwell chip will be quite noticeable and I'm expecting to be able to run most games stable on ultra or close to it. Though I'm never deluding myself again to expect that high end cards will make every game run smooth.

The more complex the games get the less developers will be inclined to optimize everything. I expect recommended hardware specs to increase radically this gen. So there really is no such thing as "strong enough" hardware or unutilized power. Which was my original point.

That's why, my prefference for visual setting is always 60 fps for FPS games and 3rd person action games is always 30 fps. That's rule of thumb for gaming no matter how powerful your card is, most of developer will chose some aspect for type of  games(most 3rd person game have more visual fidelity then the first person games ). But if you preffer performance over quality then you just sacrifice the graphic setting, but if you have the money to spend why not to get both performence and image quality, but then again is over price.



Wow, dat price cut!



                  

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I spent $450 on a Sapphire R9 290 Vapor-X, just before the entire R9 series dropped in price drastically. If I had known there was going to be as big of a price discount on the 295x2, I would have waited for it. The R9 295x2 is still the best dual-card setup for 4k gaming. Considering that a single 980 starts at $550, paying $730 for 2 290x's with a closed-loop water cooling system that keeps it cooler than 980 sli is actually quite impressive.

It will be interesting to see how relevant this card remains when the R9 300 series comes out next year.



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HollyGamer said:
vivster said:
HollyGamer said:

While the games actually can run good  in the future patch, i guess it's your decision anyway and if you want to spend for just to bump frame rate 10-20% frame rates and consider a small  resolution increase. I just want to give advice it's better to wait most games will look the same for another 3-4 years. Most developer still use Unreal Engine 4 and Cry 3 engine. It will not make more realistic then like today standard.

I'm already sacrificing in visual fidelity for a stable 60fps. The less I have to sacrifice, the better. I won#t overspend on hardware either. My current card is a 680, so the the switch to the new full Maxwell chip will be quite noticeable and I'm expecting to be able to run most games stable on ultra or close to it. Though I'm never deluding myself again to expect that high end cards will make every game run smooth.

The more complex the games get the less developers will be inclined to optimize everything. I expect recommended hardware specs to increase radically this gen. So there really is no such thing as "strong enough" hardware or unutilized power. Which was my original point.

That's why, my prefference for visual setting is always 60 fps for FPS games and 3rd person action games is always 30 fps. That's rule of thumb for gaming no matter how powerful your card is, most of developer will chose some aspect for type of  games(most 3rd person game have more visual fidelity then the first person games ). But if you preffer performance over quality then you just sacrifice the graphic setting, but if you have the money to spend why not to get both performence and image quality, but then again is over price.

I'm always going the money route. I have absolutely no problem of splurging 900€ for a new card. But as I explained even the strongest single gpu will not be strong enough for certain games. I will never have multiple GPUs in my system because of the various drawbacks.

That's why I don't understand people who claim that certain hardware is enough or underutilized.



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Wouldn't buy cause the R9 380X is coming around the corner ...



fatslob-:O said:

Wouldn't buy cause the R9 380X is coming around the corner ...

There is no end if you waiting for the best card, if you have the money actually is fine because ther will be more and more comming for the future Lol



fatslob-:O said:

Wouldn't buy cause the R9 380X is coming around the corner ...

Is it really around the corner though? Gotten pretty quiet lately. Wouldn't be surprised if we don't see them before Q3 next year.



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The cheapest one on Amazon costs £589, it's not under £500.
Not worth the money IMO.
To build a rig to support that it's going to cost over £1000.

 

I just re-read the OP, missed the part where it says it's an eBuyer deal, so forget what I said about it costing over £500.

The cost of the rig to support that would still be around the £1000 mark.