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VanceIX said:

So just update your old one. This is almost the same exact thing with just a few different numbers. 

OT: Still no way. It'll reach 19-20 tops. The two major things going against it-

1. Currently most expensive ($50 more than Xbone and $100 than Wii U).

- The Wii was easily the cheapest during the same time period, over $150 cheaper than its closes rivals.

2. No killer games (Xbone has MCC, Wii U has Smash. The PS4 has LBP3. Yeah.)

- The Wii had Zelda: Twilight Princess Mario: Galaxy released at this time. I think that should tell you everything you need to know.

It's silly because you're disregarding everything about why the PS4 is performing the way it is.

1. Wii U has always been cheapest, literally doesn't mean crap

1.a. It was performing at/above the Wii at its current price point for the entire year.

2.c First you disregard the all the PS4s other exclusives, then you disregard multiplats. News Flash, Highest selling XB1 bundle is ACU, PS4 has GTA and Tlou: Re

I think that should tell you all you need to know

FYI: I agree with the estimate, but I disagree with the reasoning behind it.



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BF week and all Dec will be insane for PS4 in the Global, I would say 20-21M, it could pass Wii !



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Ps4 dominates (even the Wii)! So it's possible.



about time nintendo came up with some new IP imo, such talent and thought required to rehash the same old carp

 

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Dr.Vita said:
Ps4 dominates (even the Wii)! So it's possible.

Domination apart, at week-ending Nov 29th PS4 should be at 16.3M, and in the 2 weeks before Christmas PS4 could sell 3M. 16.3M + 3M = 19.3M. Then, you have other 2 weeks and half, and if PS4 only sells 500k as an average per week, you have other 1.250.000. So 19.3+1.25=20.55M. This is why I say 20-21M, which will be what we will have. I think more close to 21.  It's an easy calculation.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

It's silly because you're disregarding everything about why the PS4 is performing the way it is.

1. Wii U has always been cheapest, literally doesn't mean crap

1.a. It was performing at/above the Wii at its current price point for the entire year.

2.c First you disregard the all the PS4s other exclusives, then you disregard multiplats. News Flash, Highest selling XB1 bundle is ACU, PS4 has GTA and Tlou: Re

I think that should tell you all you need to know

FYI: I agree with the estimate, but I disagree with the reasoning behind it.

1. Yes, it does. Consumers will gravitate towards to a cheaper console, assuming power level and game remain near identical. Can be seen with the huge surgein One sales since the price drop. Doesn't mean the PS4 won't outsell it, but it does mean the One will bite in to some of the sales.

1. a. Yes, but for most of the year it was the same price as one of the consoles and had better games than the other. Now, it is easily the most expensive and doesn't have a truly heavy-hitting game out.

2. c. Newsflash, multiplats are on multiple consoles, hence the name, so they wash out. And what PS4 exclusive that came out this quarter matches up to Master Chief Collection or Smash Bros? The answer is none of them. LBP3 could have been, but the initial reaction to it was lukewarm. Also the bundle is priced $50 higher than the One bundle, which also includes 2 games.



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VanceIX said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

It's silly because you're disregarding everything about why the PS4 is performing the way it is.

1. Wii U has always been cheapest, literally doesn't mean crap

1.a. It was performing at/above the Wii at its current price point for the entire year.

2.c First you disregard the all the PS4s other exclusives, then you disregard multiplats. News Flash, Highest selling XB1 bundle is ACU, PS4 has GTA and Tlou: Re

I think that should tell you all you need to know

FYI: I agree with the estimate, but I disagree with the reasoning behind it.

1. Yes, it does. Consumers will gravitate towards to a cheaper console, assuming power level and game remain near identical. Can be seen with the huge surgein One sales since the price drop. Doesn't mean the PS4 won't outsell it, but it does mean the One will bite in to some of the sales.

1. a. Yes, but for most of the year it was the same price as one of the consoles and had better games than the other. Now, it is easily the most expensive and doesn't have a truly heavy-hitting game out.

2. c. Newsflash, multiplats are on multiple consoles, hence the name, so they wash out. And what PS4 exclusive that came out this quarter matches up to Master Chief Collection or Smash Bros? The answer is none of them. LBP3 could have been, but the initial reaction to it was lukewarm.

We're talking about shifting consoles, not pushing one console ahead of the other.

2. Multiplats have shown to be far better console pushers then exclusives. The only thing the Wii U has is Smash pushing it and MCC bundle is substatially behind the ACU bundle. And GTA and Destiny bundles have pushed PS4 sales much higher than any other exclusive bundles. Exclusives literally don't matter when we're talking just pushing consoles.

1. I didn't say price, I said Wii U being cheapest doesn't matter, cause right now its effective price doesn't make up for its weaknesses.

If you want to say hey PS4 wont sell more in this month vs XB1/Wii U, only then does it makes sense to talk about Exclusives and competitor price alone.



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Above 20 million it's a given.



I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, it's selling very well right now.



Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
VanceIX said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

It's silly because you're disregarding everything about why the PS4 is performing the way it is.

1. Wii U has always been cheapest, literally doesn't mean crap

1.a. It was performing at/above the Wii at its current price point for the entire year.

2.c First you disregard the all the PS4s other exclusives, then you disregard multiplats. News Flash, Highest selling XB1 bundle is ACU, PS4 has GTA and Tlou: Re

I think that should tell you all you need to know

FYI: I agree with the estimate, but I disagree with the reasoning behind it.

1. Yes, it does. Consumers will gravitate towards to a cheaper console, assuming power level and game remain near identical. Can be seen with the huge surgein One sales since the price drop. Doesn't mean the PS4 won't outsell it, but it does mean the One will bite in to some of the sales.

1. a. Yes, but for most of the year it was the same price as one of the consoles and had better games than the other. Now, it is easily the most expensive and doesn't have a truly heavy-hitting game out.

2. c. Newsflash, multiplats are on multiple consoles, hence the name, so they wash out. And what PS4 exclusive that came out this quarter matches up to Master Chief Collection or Smash Bros? The answer is none of them. LBP3 could have been, but the initial reaction to it was lukewarm.

We're talking about shifting consoles, not pushing one console ahead of the other.

2. Multiplats have shown to be far better console pushers then exclusives. The only thing the Wii U has is Smash pushing it and MCC bundle is substatially behind the ACU bundle. And GTA and Destiny bundles have pushed PS4 sales much higher than any other exclusive bundles. Exclusives literally don't matter when we're talking just pushing consoles.

1. I didn't say price, I said Wii U being cheapest doesn't matter, cause right now its effective price doesn't make up for its weaknesses.

If you want to say hey PS4 wont sell more in this month vs XB1/Wii U, only then does it makes sense to talk about Exclusives and competitor price alone.

Except that's not what I said. I said it won't have nearly a strong month as OP is suggesting. I still believe it will sell more than the X1/Wii U, just not at the behemoth level OP seems to suggest it will. Maybe if the PS4 had a $100 price cut and a brand new Uncharted or Last of Us game, but right now the other consoles are also appealing enough to take portions out of the potential sales needed to reach 21 million.



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