Yes I know that what I am about to post will be anecdotal. But I my Wal-Mart, Xbox one was the first one to sell out, while PS4 still had 2 carts left, and this was 1 hour and a half after the doors had opened.

     Now you could say that alright sure that probably proves November, but what about December? Well for that I have to say so many were asking for Xbox Ones after they were sold out and they were giving them the option to guarantee it in December, before christmas, which many were doing it, while for PS4 they didn't have this option(maybe because there was still a lot of stock).

  As for Wii U, Wal- Mart didn't even have an official bundle for it, which is a shame I really want it to do well.

  Microsoft should have really shipped more, they are missing out and most likely helping Sony a bit.

  And don't go around call me a fanboy or wishful thinking, because I like Playstation more than Xbox, I have never owned an Xbox and probably never will, while I have owned all Sony and Nintendo consoles and still do, except for the latest gen, still waiting for price drops.

  But Microsoft deserves this, they have done so much for this holidays, and even though I have never wanted to see them win, now I do atleast for the holidays. I can understand that Sony tried to focus more on profit and they also knew that they would sell well as it is, but they should have done a bit more or atleast include current gen games, and not just remasters/ports. 

Anyways, thoughts? Do you think Microsoft can pull it off?

I think you hit on a key that may severely harm them : "Microsoft should have really shipped more".

You can't ship what retailers don't accept or order. A lot of planning has to go into things, and retailers hate taking big risks. PS4 has been a solid hit all year long, while X1 has had fits and spurts. Worse, X1 has had SKUs that have been left to rot when newer more competitive ones are released (Kinectless did this to the $449/$499 Kinect bundles, and now AC/etc $349 bundles and $329 BF bundles are doing this to the vanilla SKU). So it's a lethal combo of overstock of bad SKUs along with not enough retailer demand in advance for the hot SKUs.

Sony seems to have produced MASS numbers of bundle SKUs for the BF to end of year period. And if something is in dramatically higher availability, it can heavily skew things.

Best case for X1 : somewhat narrow win for Nov, somewhat narrow loss for Dec, for an overall tie.
Worst case for X1 : somewhat narrow loss for Nov, moderate loss for Dec, for another ~150-250k in the hole overall.

I think the reality will be in the middle of that though.

That is correct, but for December they can just order more, that is why they were doing that "guaranteed" before christmas option, because they will most likely order a lot more this time around. And I'm sure Microsoft might have produced a bit extra to be on the safe side.

Well...here is what I think.

but what about December? Well for that I have to say so many were asking for Xbox Ones after they were sold out and they were giving them the option to guarantee it in December, before christmas, which many were doing it, while for PS4 they didn't have this option(maybe because there was still a lot of stock).

December 2014: XB1 won. Do you know why? No stock for PS4. High Demand means nothing if there is no stock avaliable.

And don't go around call me a fanboy or wishful thinking, because I like Playstation more than Xbox, I have never owned an Xbox and probably never will, while I have owned all Sony and Nintendo consoles and still do, except for the latest gen, still waiting for price drops.

Why does everyone posting something that favors one console (manufacturer) via other and wishes to look unbias post this? It is insecure and unnecessary so don't bother doing it in the future. If someone calls you a fanboy for expressing your views, then they are just insecure themselves. Not to mention official bundles and retailer price cuts for all big 3 posted on this very forum.

But Microsoft deserves this, they have done so much for this holidays,

Microsoft does not deserve anything. They lowered their prices considerably to be competive in a holiday. It is buisness, buisness do not "deserve" sales. They might earn them, but they don't deserve the term "deserve".

  and even though I have never wanted to see them win, now I do atleast for the holidays

More examples of playing for the other team.

I can understand that Sony tried to focus more on profit and they also knew that they would sell well as it is, but they should have done a bit more or atleast include current gen games, and not just remasters/ports.

Sony did as many remaster's as Microsoft did, and actually more current gen exclusives. The bulk of remasters, ports, and non-nintendo current gen games are 3rd party.

Anyways, thoughts? Do you think Microsoft can pull it off?

Unlikely, simply because the official bundles will have run course into December.

Unless PS4 absolutely dominates BF, XBO has November NPD locked up. However, I just have a feeling that PS4 will win December. It is possible that XBO wins, but they may run into stock problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43KirCJgrK0

- M, Carl

This line right there is the problem of this thread. Basing everything you are saying on rate of sales isn't very smart.

What if your store had 100 more PS4 consoles than they had XB1s? Unless you are saying that they both had the exact same number of consoles which i strongly doubt. Further more, if both consoles eventually completely exhuasted their stock, doesn't that go right back to meaning that whichever company shipped more sold more?

Anyways, at the start of the month I was pretty certain XB1 will take november but not december. Now for november I think its a "maybe" and for december its a "not a chance"

how long does microsoft intend to keep the price discount? Is it only for November? Or for the entire holiday season?

Nothing big I know but my parents bought my brother a ps4 for Christmas and two of my co-workers told me yesterday as we were leaving work they were on their way to buy themselves a ps4 as well so there's three in Sony's favor :)

holiday season but to be honest i dont think they will raise the price again.