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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 22nd of November 2014

poor Vita...



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kowenicki said:

Will you stop calling all PR spin.  I've explained this to you once already and you said you now understoid.

I understood it is spin...

You are running alone so I just left you alone... nobody seems to care what you think anymore.



anyone else notice vgchartz having issues XD



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(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

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Ninsect said:
kristianity77 said:
Samus Aran said:


I really can't understand the hype and sales for PS4. It's like gamers don't actually care about the most important thing... Games.

Now don't get me wrong, PS4 will end up with many great games during its lifetime (a lot of them will even be exclusive), but that isn't the case right now. Most games available now are also on the PS3. I guess that disproves the myth that graphics don't matter. Obviously they're super important for the majority of the gamers.


So much wrong with this comment I dont know where to start.  In the last couple of weeks alone we have had Far Cry 4, Dragon Age, GTA V.  Of course graphics matter.  If they didn't we would all still be playing on PS1s and PS2s and earlier.

All of the above games are available on PS3 you are indeed correct.  But none of them play as well on the older systems, nor look as good, nor run as nicely.  So obviously people are going to buy these games on the new systems.  Its common sense.

And to suggest that the PS4 doesn't have any games right now is absurd.  I've got about 20 physical releases and about a dozen digital titles which suggest otherwise.  There might not be many games to your individual taste, granted.  But to suggest there isn't any is just plain ignorant.  

Also, 15 million sales seem to dictate that people on a whole, disagree with you also.

He probably means that there is no Mario, Zelda or Smash on the systems and thus no games

More like no Nathan Drake, no Kratos, no new IP from Sony, etc.

Although I would love a Zelda like game on the PS4. Darksiders I & II is what comes closest on the 7th gen consoles sadly (or Okami HD, but that's a remake). You'd think this genre would be a lot more popular given how great such games can be. And sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm not a big Smash fan. Though the PS4 could use a good Kart racer à la Mario Kart. I loved Crash Team Racing when I was younger. 

And yeah, the PS4 could use a decent 3D platformer instead of that Knack crap. And that game sold way too well, even if we ignore the fact that it came bundled in Japan. So there's definitely a market for it on the PS4. 



Wii U is pretty underwhelming for a week with Smash Bros release in the US. I was thinking about 30k more for the console.

PS4 on the other hand, is really going through the roof

And at this rate, the good ol' Wii will overtake the Vita in the next weeks. Vita really is on its last gripes



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Bofferbrauer said:
Wii U is pretty underwhelming for a week with Smash Bros release in the US. I was thinking about 30k more for the console.

PS4 on the other hand, is really going through the roof

And at this rate, the good ol' Wii will overtake the Vita in the next weeks. Vita really is on its last gripes

it gave wii u a 40k boost and didn't even have a bundle :P



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

colafitte said:

WOW PS4..., and those sales are pre BF week......

PS4 is going to have an historical holiday season, and yet people still doubts ps4 will sell more than 20 mill before 2015....

Nice numbers for XBO too.

i'm a ps4 fan but even i have and still have soubts. The number is just so unimaginable big. it's Wii/PS2 type numbers. It's hard to believe a dedicated gaming device not getting many casuals to do these numbers. Especially with all the doom articles of mobile, table and pc gaming taking over the world. 



Wow... those PS4 numbers are crazy.

WiiU didn't get as big a boost from the NA Smash Bros launch as i'd have liked.



ethomaz said:

kowenicki said:

Will you stop calling all PR spin.  I've explained this to you once already and you said you now understoid.

I understood it is spin...

You are running alone so I just left you alone... nobody seems to care what you think anymore.

Nope. Lots of us respect someone who likes to work with facts and figures and not paranoia and hyperbole. 



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

thx1139 said:
ethomaz said:

kowenicki said:

Will you stop calling all PR spin.  I've explained this to you once already and you said you now understoid.

I understood it is spin...

You are running alone so I just left you alone... nobody seems to care what you think anymore.

Nope. Lots of us respect someone who likes to work with facts and figures and not paranoia and hyperbole. 

Nah, he is too biased and arrogant to respect his stuff.