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torok on 26 November 2014
Nem said:


Bayonetta 2 was actually a sucess. It outsold its predecessor on a single console with a much smaller installed base.

But of course, that is not convenient to face. ;)


Not it isn't. The game is 80k overtracked in US only here on VGC according to October NDP data. Install base is irrelevant, we all know that game sales don't scale linearly with the base (as an example, Resistance 1 outsells R2 and R3 combined). The game will barely reach 0.5M. It won't come close to outsell the 360 version of Bayo 1 (worse selling B1 version).



Bet with jetforcejiminy: PS4 will pass the Wii lifetime numbers.

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Cobretti2 on 26 November 2014

Does anyone else wonder if the game sold 2million units would this thread be anywhere this long?



 

 

Materia-Blade on 26 November 2014
daredevil.shark said:
Materia-Blade said:

one whole example? and AC liberation was exclusive. how about talking about rayman legends?

My point was AC Liberation (PS Vita) sales > AC 3 (Wii U) sales + AC IV Black Flag (Wii U) sales. BTW rayman sold more in PS4. Not in Wii U.

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70620/assassins-creed-iii/

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/71748/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag/

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/63598/assassins-creed-iii-liberation/

I think you meant rayman on ps3. and considering its monster installed base compared to wii u, wii u did better.



Materia-Blade on 26 November 2014
torok said:
Nem said:


Bayonetta 2 was actually a sucess. It outsold its predecessor on a single console with a much smaller installed base.

But of course, that is not convenient to face. ;)


Not it isn't. The game is 80k overtracked in US only here on VGC according to October NDP data. Install base is irrelevant, we all know that game sales don't scale linearly with the base (as an example, Resistance 1 outsells R2 and R3 combined). The game will barely reach 0.5M. It won't come close to outsell the 360 version of Bayo 1 (worse selling B1 version).

there is no concrete npd data saying it's overtracked. just a rumour.



daredevil.shark on 26 November 2014
Materia-Blade said:
daredevil.shark said:

My point was AC Liberation (PS Vita) sales > AC 3 (Wii U) sales + AC IV Black Flag (Wii U) sales. BTW rayman sold more in PS4. Not in Wii U.

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70620/assassins-creed-iii/

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/71748/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag/

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/63598/assassins-creed-iii-liberation/

I think you meant rayman on ps3. and considering its monster installed base compared to wii u, wii u did better.

Read the original comment. I "meant" AC series. BTW rayman sold more in PS4 than Wii U.



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Materia-Blade on 26 November 2014
Angelv577 said:

DS sold more than 1 million at the end.  You and I know bayo 2 would be lucky to reach 500k, just look at the legs.  Typical of some, looking at the whole library to find that game that fit their agenda ignoring other bunch of ps3 games that showed the console didnt have such a problem selling third parties games, I cant say the same thing about Wii U. 

look at the legs? the first bayonetta had long legs.



Materia-Blade on 26 November 2014
daredevil.shark said:
Materia-Blade said:

I think you meant rayman on ps3. and considering its monster installed base compared to wii u, wii u did better.

Read the original comment. I "meant" AC series. BTW rayman sold more in PS4 than Wii U.

nope, it's 390k on wii u vs 320k on ps4.



Angelv577 on 26 November 2014

@material blade

the first bayonetta had long legs because it had an install base to support that legs. bayo 2 won't have that unless it's massively bundle.



DonFerrari on 26 November 2014
Materia-Blade said:
DonFerrari said:
Materia-Blade said:

bayo 2 won't stop on 350k and will end as a success. and yet again, no one is saying 350k is a success for an exclusive.

any other mp? let's see, there's quite a few that sold above 250k, and above 300k, and a few even above 350k and 400k. so, when you say a game will sell millions on other consoles (not true for 99% of games) and only 100-200k on wii u, it is downplaying. and a game released right now and onwards would do better than those old examples.


You listed so many examples of WiiU multiplats doing what you claim that I got lost. And yes, there is people claiming 350k is a sucess and that it costed very little to do so the dev is already pleased.

the site has a list, I don't have to name everything.


You don't, but if you want to make a point name 3 on each condition, you know because the burden of proof is for the claimer... You know WiiU have been selling really bad on SW and most things non-Nintendo flopped.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

snowdog on 26 November 2014

And there STILL isn't a single review of the game anywhere to be seen on Metacritic.