According to Wilson's account which sounds far fetched at best....  Not saying he's lying but this sort of thing is precisely why all on duty police officers need to be equipped with body camera's.

The laws pretty much say that if you can explain why you reasonably feared for your (or someone else's) safety, you are allowed to use the force necessary to stop that threat. Physically fighting the person sounds like it wouldn't be reasonable in this scenario, and as a police officer, if he was to use his gun to stop a threat, he is trained to shoot to kill, not to injure or incapacitate. While I don't know all the facts (and I don't think any one does), it sounds like this use of force was reasonable and legal in this situation.

Not really, you have at least one witness who said Brown and Wilson were physically in contact before Wilson even exited his vehicle.  You have Brown's fingerprint on the gun, as well.  So, you can't claim total bias on the part of Wilson.

I don't think there are many people condoning the rioting, it doesn't seem a point worthy of discussion...

I laugh excessively at the people trying to remove this from being a problem of racism and pin it on the police system. It may be the police force's fault but the entire American Judicial system, police force, and media are curated by the people in power;whites. The riots we saw the night before last was a prime example of the pain and suffering that people of color went through, and continue to go through here in America. Like someone else has stated in this thread, I too have experienced firsthand racism occur to black people by police forces, school systems and citizens. Getting Hell look at the comments on some of the youtube videos about this fiasco, you would think a KKK person would have wrote them, but as far as I know that could be my cousin. And they get hundreds of likes and shit. And no, it's not because they're acting like "thugs" it is just because the government and media portray blacks as criminals and thugs, and famous black people like rappers and singers buy into this image for publicity. Things were a lot different when they was positive role models for black males and they weren't portrayed as though, unless you're a ball player or a rapper or a thug, you aren't going to make it. God I miss the days of rappers like Tupac who showed blacks to stand up and fight against oppression in their communities. This is coming from a almost upper class white male, black people have and always will have the short end of the stick, and until us white people speak up about it, it will never get to the point were we can see equally.

Blacks were asking with the panthers, they were asking with the civil rights movement, they were asking with their "thuglife" initiative, they were asking. Now that riot wasn't the right way to go about things, but when you have a black community with no economy, all white police, making money by roadblocks, and lacking aid from the government, of course you're going to see a lot of angry black people, they've been wronged for so long in this country.


So now after years of white violence towards blacks, now that the black people riot and protest against it, now we're finally hearing them?

Okay well we can agree to disagree I do not think someone punching or hitting another person should lead to death. Heck there are a LOT of things if done correctly that kill you.

I never claimed total BS, I said far fetched i.e hard to believe. They definitely had an altercation, but Wilson recalls that as he tried to leave his vehicle Brown just randomly start attacking him? How many people... sane people decide to start throwing punches at a armed police officer who simply asked them to move to the sidewalk?

Browns friend (probably the witness you're refering to) says Wilson threw his door open in such a way that it hit Brown and caused him to retaliate by slamming the door closed, at which point Wilson grabbed him through the Window by the neck/collar and thus the altercation began.

All I'm saying is its clearly a very strange altercation and eye witnesses alone are not that reliable. Body Camera's are needed.

Vox has both accounts up on their site:

http://www.vox.com/2014/11/25/7287443/dorian-johnson-story

Do a quick search, you will find litterally dozens of examples of people dying from one hit just in the last year. It happens all the time and those are just the ones that make the press, it happens all the time in bars and pub altercations.

No, I'm referring to Witness number 10:

Interview Witness 10:

"Roughly I wanna say 8:40, I mean not 8:40, 11:40-11:40 is when that-when I first seen these two guys.  And, my initial thought was, "wow, that's a big dude," Because Mr. Brown, Mike Brown, my initial thought was he's a big guy.  He's tall and like stocky build and that's it.  He-he, they both walked passed me.  I took my tools, went into <redacted> I came back outside <redacted> to get some more stuff and I looked down the street and I seen the police car at a slant and I seen Mr. Brown in the window of the police car looked...it appeared as they were wrestling through the window and one gunshot had let off.  And, Mr. Brown took off running and my first thought was like "oh my gosh" did I actually just witness a police officer being murdered because it took a while for the police officer to get out of the car and pursue the-the suspect.  And, I wanna say maybe six seconds, but it seemed like it was forever after the-the-the first gunshot.  So, the police officer exited the vehicle with his weapon drawn pursuing Mr. Brown.  Mr. Brown was quite a distance and he stopped and when he stopped, he didn't get down on the ground or anything.  He turned around and did some type of movement.  I never seen him put his hands up or anything.  I can't recall the movement that he did.  I'm not sure if he pulled his pants up or-or whatever he did but I seen some type of movement and he started chargings towards the police officer.  The police officer then returned fire, well, not returned fire, open fire on Mr. Brown.  Um, if I had to guess the shots and the-the distance between him and a, Mr. Brown, it would have to be five to ten yards and the shots that were fired was four, five to six shots fired and Mr. Brown was still standing up.  Um, and my thoughts was while he's missing this guy this close, is he-is he hitting him or because Mr. Brown there was no reaction from him to show that he was been hit.  Um, after that.  Mr. Brown then paused.  He-he-he stopped running and when he stopped running the police officer stopped firing.  And, then Mr. Brown continued, started again to charge towards him after that the police officer returned fire and um well not returned, I'm using wrong...a started to fire once more at him.  Um, if I had to guess the rounds that were fired then it would be four to five more shots and after that Mr. Brown collapsed and fell to the ground."

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1371232/interview-witness-10.pdf (page 4 and 5)

Now, as for why someone would physically assault a police officer?  Probably for the same reason someone would rob a store for a few cigars, and assault the clerk.  Not wanting to get arrested.  But, that's getting way way ahead of the evidence.  The unfortunate part here is Brown wasn't arrested, and wasn't able to tell his side of the story.  But, he chose not to obey the officer.  That was his choice.

Whats telling is how quickly people just adopt the narrative being told by Wilson as the truth.

He's already being caught lying about false provocation in a previous incident and now we've seen complete incompetence from the police force in how they responded to the MB's death, they went as far as to lie about to the distance at which he was shot just to fit their narrative.

The police are just people who have been given power, they are not immune from selfishness, anger, violent outburst or lying to cover their asses.

''footage was released purportedly showing Wilson in 2013 arresting a man, Mike Arman, for recording the officer without his permission. But the video footage disproved some of Wilson's claims about the encounter, and the charges against Arman were ultimately dropped.''

http://www.vox.com/2014/11/25/7279483/michael-brown-evidence