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Because it didn't outsell ps4 dosn't mean X1 sold bad



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

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small44 said:
Because it didn't outsell ps4 dosn't mean X1 sold bad


I didn't say that. It's actually selling quite good. 

My whole "Microsoft is doomed" rant only applies to if they actually want to overtake the PS4. 

 

As a standalone console, they are doing fine. Although losing a lot of money.



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Where are you getting this from? We only have UK and US numbers for Halo's week, and the Bone is in first for both.



I believe Microsoft is more concerned with flipping a profit. Xbox One just needs to make money, and it seems the console is finally looking favorable by consumers. Meanwhile at Sony they are just hoping they can still afford the electricity bill.

Besides 3rd party games are the money makers and console sellers. First party is just used to differentiate the two.



Cj2i3 said:
I believe Microsoft is more concerned with flipping a profit. Xbox One just needs to make money, and it seems the console is finally looking favorable by consumers. Meanwhile at Sony they are just hoping they can still afford the electricity bill.

Besides 3rd party games are the money makers and console sellers. First party is just used to differentiate the two.

Hyrperbole incoming: This bolded sentence makes, quite literally, zero sense.

If the two products are the same given third party software then how does the first party that differentiates them not matter and sway console sales?

Your entire post is at odds with itself. It starts off with a veiled conceit that the important thing for MSFT is simple profit not growth, then immediately jumps to consumer perception, then randomly ignores the games division at sony making a profit and extrapolates Sony Corps struggles and implies the games division is somehow responsible for their mobile division catastrophic losses.

You really could have just said "So, MSFT makes more money" and been done with it rather than post contradicting, unsubstantial sentences.



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They were never going to win a week worldwide.



UltimateGamer1982 said:
Microsoft is not going for worldwide, they only care for north America and UK to a lesser extent.
For all intents and purposes, they won what they set out to win. Maybe not the full month, but a week or two at the very least.

Not to mention I would expect a thread title like this if npd was published today showing ps4 as the victor for November, but that's not the case.

Sorry but this thread is a bit silly.


Bolded part isn't true.

 "We shipped at the same time and we're in direct competition with the PS4," he admits. "I'm not going to duck that. I want to win. I want to win this generation"

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2014/08/12/i-want-to-win-this-generation-says-xbox-boss-phil-spencer.aspx

 

At OP. Yeah...It was pretty now or never for MS...Maybe when Halo 5 comes out?



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ps3-sales! said:

I'd like to take a minute to talk about this. The Xbone failed to outsell the Ps4 this week (worldwide) despite it's biggest game (Halo) launching.

I'd be very worried if I were Microsoft right now. Think about it.

 

Look at all the issues the Ps4 and Sony are having right now: Driveclub (broken), LBP (bugs/bad reviews), firmware 2.0, no big AAA games. And then take a look at everything RIGHT that the Xbone and Microsoft are doing: Sunset Overdrive, Halo Collection, working firmware, very VERY VERY cheap prices everywhere with cuts.

And still, the Ps4 managed to outsell the Xbone this week. 

I'd seriously be very worried if I were in the Xbox camp. 

With Bloodborne around the corner looking to be promising (March) and the Order hopfully deliver on it's hype (Feb), plus Uncharted in the near future, AND Sony still has a price cut up it's sleeve????

Does not look good.

Meanwhile Nintendo continues to underdeliver on sales, getting destroyed by the other two consoles, yet just dropped two of the most critically acclaimed next gen games so far with Bayonetta 2 and Smash Bros (probably my favorite series of ALL time). 

Go figure. Thoughts?

I don't quite understand what you're trying to demonstrate - there appears to be a step missing in your argument.

What was it about outselling the PS4 one week of the year that would have been the Xbox One's saviour? More to the point, was is it about failing to do that this week that should particularly worry Microsoft?

Is your concept that anything other than first place in this console cycle will result in failure? Is it that failing to win this week just gone worldwide will substantially influence Microsoft's long-term sales, potential for profit or ability to attract large games?

And whether this does or does not worry Microsoft (I suspect it does not worry them at all), why would a relatively niche title (Bloodborne) or new IP that has received mediocre press (The Order) cause them to substantially shift in either direction?

I think its more likely that Microsoft will look at the steps they have taken, look at the dramatic improvement in their market position in the last few weeks, and be quite pleased.



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Normchacho said:
UltimateGamer1982 said:
Microsoft is not going for worldwide, they only care for north America and UK to a lesser extent.
For all intents and purposes, they won what they set out to win. Maybe not the full month, but a week or two at the very least.

Not to mention I would expect a thread title like this if npd was published today showing ps4 as the victor for November, but that's not the case.

Sorry but this thread is a bit silly.


Bolded part isn't true.

 "We shipped at the same time and we're in direct competition with the PS4," he admits. "I'm not going to duck that. I want to win. I want to win this generation"

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2014/08/12/i-want-to-win-this-generation-says-xbox-boss-phil-spencer.aspx

 

At OP. Yeah...It was pretty now or never for MS...Maybe when Halo 5 comes out?


The op is talking about last week's ww sales numbers not passing those of ps4's. No one is talking about the generation itself. But we're talking about US sales for the month of November and as I said, in case it wasn't clear, after the price cut and bundles for north America, they have indeed won a week or two that they set out to win. If you don't think Microsoft won the past two weeks in america, you're kidding yourself. 

As for the whole month, that won't be known till next month's npd. 



UltimateGamer1982 said:
Normchacho said:
UltimateGamer1982 said:
Microsoft is not going for worldwide, they only care for north America and UK to a lesser extent.
For all intents and purposes, they won what they set out to win. Maybe not the full month, but a week or two at the very least.

Not to mention I would expect a thread title like this if npd was published today showing ps4 as the victor for November, but that's not the case.

Sorry but this thread is a bit silly.


Bolded part isn't true.

 "We shipped at the same time and we're in direct competition with the PS4," he admits. "I'm not going to duck that. I want to win. I want to win this generation"

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2014/08/12/i-want-to-win-this-generation-says-xbox-boss-phil-spencer.aspx

 

At OP. Yeah...It was pretty now or never for MS...Maybe when Halo 5 comes out?


The op is talking about last week's ww sales numbers not passing those of ps4's. No one is talking about the generation itself. But we're talking about US sales for the month of November and as I said, in case it wasn't clear, after the price cut and bundles for north America, they have indeed won a week or two that they set out to win. If you don't think Microsoft won the past two weeks in america, you're kidding yourself. 

As for the whole month, that won't be known till next month's npd. 

He couldn't have read that wrong. Think he just wanted to put that in.  Smh