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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Does GTA 5's Sex With Prostitutes In First Person Promote Rape Culture? Does it go too far?

ParryWinkle on 19 November 2014

You guys are idiots
truly the worst
You're defending a video game, VIDEO GAME, that supports rape culture by having CONSENTED sex with a strong, independent woman.
Going first person made it worse because it adds REALISM! You are just proving the point that women are viewed as objects in VIDEO GAMES. Never mind the fact that literally everything in video games are objects.
Just like how we saw an increase of male violence after they played violent video games, soon we'll see an increase of rape.
How do you sleep at night?



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Aphelion on 19 November 2014

lol its a game.

Stop blaming games movies shows aka others for your own issues.



Barkley on 19 November 2014
o_O.Q said:
markodeniro said:

I Know but it happens. So the best way would be not to include fucking (would it be so Hard).

so basically we should censor a game for adults?


I agree that a game marketed towards adults should not have to be censored. However what exactly does having the ability to have sex with prostitutes add to GTA. Do people actually think this feature adds to the game at all? I imagine the only people that actually bother to do it are probably teenagers, cause them kids be randy these days.

But yeah it's not Rockstars responsibility in the slightest, it just puzzles me why this feature is even in the game other than to appeal to the teenage boy demographic.



DonFerrari on 19 November 2014

Actually I would say that prostitution and skanks help to diminish rapism since you can have sex for arguibly cheap price even if you suck at conquering girls and without resorting to violence.
And games help to vent frustation not to turn people in psychopats. Kid programing is already done by left wing teachers.
about victim blamming. You may not be guilty for what happens but are at least partially guilty for what happens to you as you are the most interested in your safety and shouldn't Just wait for society to protect you. If a rich guy goes to a violent neighborhood and is robbed will you fell sorry for him or will you ask if he took a bad decision and should had taken minimun precautions?
women try to pass the image that they are as strong and capable as men but all the world problems are created by men and men should make life easier for women.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 19 November 2014
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DonFerrari on 19 November 2014
ParryWinkle said:
You guys are idiots
truly the worst
You're defending a video game, VIDEO GAME, that supports rape culture by having CONSENTED sex with a strong, independent woman.
Going first person made it worse because it adds REALISM! You are just proving the point that women are viewed as objects in VIDEO GAMES. Never mind the fact that literally everything in video games are objects.
Just like how we saw an increase of male violence after they played violent video games, soon we'll see an increase of rape.
How do you sleep at night?


Like how peacefull was the world before games. No one had to go to war, no one were raped, guns didn't exist, etc.

 

And even better when capitalism didn't exist and no one was oppresed.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Soundwave on 19 November 2014

The article is off base. That's a sexual encounter between two consenting adults. That's not rape. If there was a scenario in GTA where you could rape people, I would agree they have a point but that isn't what happens in the game. And granted I'm not a fan of the GTA series to begin with. 

I would say the segments of GTAV where you can torture people through QTE style events are more disturbing. 

That said what I find almost equally annoying is the sections of the game culture that's become a bunch of whiny man-children complaining that women are out to get them.



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 19 November 2014
Brii said:
o_O.Q said:
Brii said:

I still think you can and should attempt to mitigate the dangers, but that it's unreasonable to live your life in fear or completely prepared for someone to take advantage of you. Not everyone walking down the street without mace should feel like they'd deserve it if they were mugged. There's very much a difference between the notion that "Precaution could have helped me in hindsight" and "I deserved this happening to me because I didn't excerise precaution". 

 

i didn't say anything was deserved

all i'm sayng is that depending on the choices you make then depending on the circumstances you may suffer

and you may suffer even in a situation where you did try to protect yourself 

i think we need to come to terms with the fact that this is an unchangeable part of the world we live in 

at anytime it could be anyone's time to die or be harmed

however, taking measures for protection does reduce the chances of being harmed and that is my point

i don't think the smart way forward for people that value safety is to disregard these measures entirely and say blame the perpetrators because no matter how much you blame them they will exist


Alot of victims ARE claimed to have 'deserved it', though, unfortunately, which is where much of the issue lies. That's why many are afraid to speak out about things like abuse. And it's definitely not just women. So many times I read nasty comments about gay teenagers who are verbally abused or harmed in school akin to something like "He had it coming by flaunting it". Sure, they could avoid it by never being honest with others about their sexuality, but is that a fair 'precaution' to ask of them? Why not ask of others to NOT be verbally and physically abusive instead?

I'm not saying bad things won't happen if you aren't careful, or that bad things won't happen even if you are. But the victim still shouldn't be blamed or told they deserved it when it's the actions of another that directly caused their harm. There's only so much you can do to protect yourself, and even less to protect yourself while still being able to enjoy life. There is inherent risk in just walking out the door each day, after all. 

We can talk subjective crap all day.

Censoring free speech is many orders of magnitude more destructive. It is indefensible. 

As for the the topic:

Rape =/= Prostitution

GTA =/= Life

Claiming that the game promotes rape culture inadvertidly objectifies women, actual women, further ironically.

This is literally the exact same thing as the hot cofee mod in the past. Except this whole rape culture thing comes from part of the gaming media calling everyhting misogynist.



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Netyaroze on 19 November 2014

Rape culture what is that ?

Edit just looked at wikipedia:

 

Rape culture is a concept that examines a culture in which rape is pervasive and normalized due to societal attitudes about gender and sexuality.[1][2]"

 

Rape is normalized because it GTA 5 has first person sex with prostitutes ?? Makes no sense its fiction and its not rape to pay a prostititute for sex (well in europe anyway).



BossPuma on 19 November 2014

I believe we are conditioned to be more accepting of that kind of stuff and GTA is a contributing factor. Those who disagree need a basic lesson in classical conditioning.