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markodeniro on 19 November 2014

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AZWification on 19 November 2014



                
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markodeniro on 19 November 2014
o_O.Q said:
markodeniro said:

I Know but it happens. So the best way would be not to include fucking (would it be so Hard).

so basically we should censor a game for adults?

Yes



FragilE^ on 19 November 2014
markodeniro said:
I don't want to be a prude but they shouldn't have to put it in. I know it's an 18/M rated game but a lot of children play GTA.
My friend who never played GTA let his 8 year old son play GTA 4 until i showed him the game, he told me his son played GTA San An when he was 5. This will be some childs first encounter with sex. Not good in my opinion. Maybe they could release an edited version with no sex, blood and bad language for a younger audience.


"I know it's an 18/M rated game but ... " No buts. That's the end of the conversation. Yes, it is M rated and should therefore be limited to that audience.

THAT'S IT.

 

@ the article... Paying a prostitute for sexual favours IRL = paying a prostitute for sexual favours.

Paying a prostitue for sexual favours in a game = Programming kids to want to rape women...? What the fuck is wrong with these people... No, not even that, WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE SO INCREDIBLY INFLUENTIAL, LOUD AND POWERFUL?! Gah, it's disgusting.



Dunban67 on 19 November 2014
markodeniro said:

I Know but it happens. So the best way would be not to include fucking (would it be so Hard).


Your friends parents should do a better job of being engaged enough w their kids or figure out GTA is not for kids before their kids have been plYing the game for 2generarions by age 8-    

I have problems with inappropriate content that is marketed to kids and all to easily accessible due to being in kids chanels and during kids typical tv watching time frames but GTA is a rated game for a reason, they are not going to play through a game on accident unlike the junk pushed at kids today through preciously safe (relatively means) 



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Brii on 19 November 2014
o_O.Q said:
Brii said:


That's pretty narrowminded, in my opinion. Yes, people SHOULD take responsibility for their safety, but most certainly does not mean that they are fair game if they don't. The actual blame lies solely on the perpetrator. If someone mugs you on the street, would you appreciate someone saying "Well, you should have been carrying mace."? Yes, mace could have prevented it, but the one who robbed you is the impetus for the crime, not your lack of mace.


"but most certainly does not mean that they are fair game if they don't"

 

what does fair game mean? does that mean that should something happen to them that they are partially responsible? if so then i disagree they would in that case be fair game

 

"The actual blame lies solely on the perpetrator"

 

for initiation of the situation yes, however, the response to that situation falls on my shoulders

 

" would you appreciate someone saying "Well, you should have been carrying mace."?"

 

that is the problem with this whole issue everything must be adjusted to fit what makes women feel good as opposed to what makes sense

regardless of how i would feel about it the fact remains that considering that we live in a world where crime happens, to mitigate against that crime there are several methods we can use

one is as you said the use of mace

 

"the one who robbed you is the impetus for the crime, not your lack of mace."

 

yes they initiated the situation and to respond i have 2 choices take the passive i am a helpless victim route or i can be prepared should something happen

I still think you can and should attempt to mitigate the dangers, but that it's unreasonable to live your life in fear or completely prepared for someone to take advantage of you. Not everyone walking down the street without mace should feel like they'd deserve it if they were mugged. There's very much a difference between the notion that "Precaution could have helped me in hindsight" and "I deserved this happening to me because I didn't excerise precaution". 



o_O.Q on 19 November 2014
Brii said:

I still think you can and should attempt to mitigate the dangers, but that it's unreasonable to live your life in fear or completely prepared for someone to take advantage of you. Not everyone walking down the street without mace should feel like they'd deserve it if they were mugged. There's very much a difference between the notion that "Precaution could have helped me in hindsight" and "I deserved this happening to me because I didn't excerise precaution". 

 

i didn't say anything was deserved

all i'm sayng is that depending on the choices you make then depending on the circumstances you may suffer

and you may suffer even in a situation where you did try to protect yourself 

i think we need to come to terms with the fact that this is an unchangeable part of the world we live in 

at anytime it could be anyone's time to die or be harmed

however, taking measures for protection does reduce the chances of being harmed and that is my point

i don't think the smart way forward for people that value safety is to disregard these measures entirely and say blame the perpetrators because no matter how much you blame them they will exist



o_O.Q on 19 November 2014
markodeniro said:
o_O.Q said:
markodeniro said:

I Know but it happens. So the best way would be not to include fucking (would it be so Hard).

so basically we should censor a game for adults?

Yes

 

so where does this end?

if we apply the notion of "omigawd we must think of the children!!!!!" to games we must carry it to all aspects of life

children watch movies so we have to censor movies

children listen to music so we have to censor music

children read books so we have to censor books

children can hear speech so we have to censor our speech

and i could go on all day with this

 

do you not see how silly this is?



mornelithe on 19 November 2014

The onus is on the accuser to provide substantive evidence to suggest there's a correlation between acts performed in a video game, and the real world (That pesky burden of proof thing). 'Asking the question?' is how Fox News slanders people, without really committing to slander.

Also, you can't 'rape' in GTA, you pay a prostitute, if people have an issue with that, I suggest taking a long look at reality.



Brii on 19 November 2014
o_O.Q said:
Brii said:

I still think you can and should attempt to mitigate the dangers, but that it's unreasonable to live your life in fear or completely prepared for someone to take advantage of you. Not everyone walking down the street without mace should feel like they'd deserve it if they were mugged. There's very much a difference between the notion that "Precaution could have helped me in hindsight" and "I deserved this happening to me because I didn't excerise precaution". 

 

i didn't say anything was deserved

all i'm sayng is that depending on the choices you make then depending on the circumstances you may suffer

and you may suffer even in a situation where you did try to protect yourself 

i think we need to come to terms with the fact that this is an unchangeable part of the world we live in 

at anytime it could be anyone's time to die or be harmed

however, taking measures for protection does reduce the chances of being harmed and that is my point

i don't think the smart way forward for people that value safety is to disregard these measures entirely and say blame the perpetrators because no matter how much you blame them they will exist


Alot of victims ARE claimed to have 'deserved it', though, unfortunately, which is where much of the issue lies. That's why many are afraid to speak out about things like abuse. And it's definitely not just women. So many times I read nasty comments about gay teenagers who are verbally abused or harmed in school akin to something like "He had it coming by flaunting it". Sure, they could avoid it by never being honest with others about their sexuality, but is that a fair 'precaution' to ask of them? Why not ask of others to NOT be verbally and physically abusive instead?

I'm not saying bad things won't happen if you aren't careful, or that bad things won't happen even if you are. But the victim still shouldn't be blamed or told they deserved it when it's the actions of another that directly caused their harm. There's only so much you can do to protect yourself, and even less to protect yourself while still being able to enjoy life. There is inherent risk in just walking out the door each day, after all.