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GTAexpert on 14 November 2014
Soundwave said:
Meanwhile "The Evil Within" comes in and does pretty good for a new IP.

One wonders how much better Sunset Overdrive would sell if they muted the color and "personality" and made it a more straight forward violent shooter game.

The Evil Within is a horror game. Its obviously not going to be colourful, otherwise it would have been terrible as a horror game. It can't be compared with Sunset Overdrive.

But Sunset Overdrive would surely have sold a lot if it was a bit more mature.



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daredevil.shark on 14 November 2014
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
daredevil.shark said:


1. He is talking about new IPs.

2. Despite being successful these Nintendos IPs are not doing as well as past. Example, Mario Kart Wii - 34.87 million vs Mario Kart 8 2.87 million. Huge drop.

3. Now a days COD, AC or TLoU are big money makers.

Umm... #2 is due to install base... The wii has over 100 million in sales... WiiU will be lucky to even get 20 million... Even if MK8 had 1:1 attach rate, it still wouldnt even beat MKwii...


2. Then compare COD AW PS4 vs MK8 Wii U. Already COD AW sold 3 million copies in PS4. It already surpassed MK8.



GTAexpert on 14 November 2014

There is a difference between colourful and cartoony games.Cartoony games are always colourful, but that doesn't mean only cartoony games are colourful. Realistic games can be colourful too.



BeElite on 14 November 2014
daredevil.shark said:

3. Now a days COD, AC or TLoU are big money makers.


Or Uncharted but lets not mention it its got to much color.  Or HAlo or Mass effect really successfull really colorfull.  

Man that infamous and its grey neon.  



Soundwave on 14 November 2014

Yeah I should clarify more about games that are not just colorful but have a cartoony element to them.

Those types of games are not doing very well at all right now, aside from a couple of Nintendo IP and Minecraft, Skylanders.

If you take Sunset Overdrive and suck out some of the wackier personality of it, mute the colors, sub in more violence/gun play (no wacky guns) does it sell better? Yeah I think so.

Watch too I think LittleBigPlanet 3 is not going to do all that great (Sony force bundled the crap out of the first one).



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 14 November 2014
daredevil.shark said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
daredevil.shark said:


1. He is talking about new IPs.

2. Despite being successful these Nintendos IPs are not doing as well as past. Example, Mario Kart Wii - 34.87 million vs Mario Kart 8 2.87 million. Huge drop.

3. Now a days COD, AC or TLoU are big money makers.

Umm... #2 is due to install base... The wii has over 100 million in sales... WiiU will be lucky to even get 20 million... Even if MK8 had 1:1 attach rate, it still wouldnt even beat MKwii...


2. Then compare COD AW PS4 vs MK8 Wii U. Already COD AW sold 3 million copies in PS4. It already surpassed MK8.

Yea but then you can also argue MK8 with other "Gritty" games like TitanFall and even Destiny on the x1 or inFAMOUS: Second Son and Killzone SF on the ps4



                  

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Soundwave on 14 November 2014
RolStoppable said:
I guess you can make that point when you set enough arbitrary rules and inject personal bias.


I like cartoony games and have no problem playing them. I'd rather play Sunset Overdrive or Donkey Kong Country: TF over any Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed or Evil Within type game. 

Even the violent action games I do like, I tend to enjoy the more colorful ones ... I like Uncharted more than Last of Us, prefer Bayonetta to Gears of War. 

But I'm becoming the small minority in the mass market. 



daredevil.shark on 14 November 2014
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
daredevil.shark said:


2. Then compare COD AW PS4 vs MK8 Wii U. Already COD AW sold 3 million copies in PS4. It already surpassed MK8.

Yea but then you can also argue MK8 with other "Gritty" games like TitanFall and even Destiny on the x1 or inFAMOUS: Second Son and Killzone SF on the ps4


You point nullifies because at the end of the day these all are video games. Plus at the end of the day people with say, MK8 is colorlike and cartoony (Good game but my point holds true). And infamous graphics is so real life like.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 14 November 2014
daredevil.shark said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
daredevil.shark said:


2. Then compare COD AW PS4 vs MK8 Wii U. Already COD AW sold 3 million copies in PS4. It already surpassed MK8.

Yea but then you can also argue MK8 with other "Gritty" games like TitanFall and even Destiny on the x1 or inFAMOUS: Second Son and Killzone SF on the ps4


You point nullifies because at the end of the day these all are video games. Plus at the end of the day people with say, MK8 is colorlike and cartoony (Good game but my point holds true). And infamous graphics is so real life like.

I have no idea what that means so I think its time for me to get out of this thread!



                  

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tak13 on 14 November 2014
daredevil.shark said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

So.. MK8, Smash Bros, 3d world, Zelda U are games that don't/won't sell?


1. He is talking about new IPs.

2. Despite being successful these Nintendos IPs are not doing as well as past. Example, Mario Kart Wii - 34.87 million vs Mario Kart 8 2.87 million. Huge drop.

3. Now a days COD, AC or TLoU are big money makers.


hhaaaa....really?you compare a game of 6months with a game of 6 years?Why don t you wait to say that after six years for mario kart 8?it won t change anything,it will be  still a drop...!However mario kart 8 wins somewhere,in attach rate ;) Also do not compare a wii game with a wii u game...it s unfair don t you think?A proper comparison is with snes,gc,n64!What about pokemon x/y which are ready to pass black/white,ds games?:P smash bros for 3ds was enough for nintendo to pass sony's gaming division in profitability  for FQ3...so it is a big money maker!