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The 750ti is probably the best card for that amount of money right now. In fact, it plays quite a lot of games well in 1080p so the drop down to 720 is quite significant. It would be a very powerful card for that resolution. You might be surprised that the Video Card is all you need to change in order to have very good performance.

The E7500 is decent enough ( on the motherboard you have). But having looked around, you can get used processors that would work in your board for next to nothing cost wise if you needed a little bit extra. The E8600 is a good CPU which would offer you a fair bit more performance (they go for about £25 in the UK on Ebay ($40)). That would be a straight swap with the one you have now.



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Go for a GTX970. System requirements are going up quickly because of the next gen so get extra power to be 100% you will run. The 750ti will have issues with Evil Within (will run decently) and Ryse (will run on medium). Ac Unity would be a no go or would run in the limit.

These GPUs were good to handle console ports from last gen since consoles were puny weak. With the packed extra power now, ports will be demanding. Go for extra power or you will need another upgrade next year. IF you can't get a 970, the you can get the 750ti, but I wouldn't recommend it. Avoid the 670, it's the same price of the 970 and way weaker. The 970 is basically 80% of a Titan.

Can't talk about AMD GPUs because I'm a NVidia only guy, but other will help you on this one. Use this site for comparisons: GPU Boss.



torok said:

Go for a GTX970. System requirements are going up quickly because of the next gen so get extra power to be 100% you will run. The 750ti will have issues with Evil Within (will run decently) and Ryse (will run on medium). Ac Unity would be a no go or would run in the limit.

These GPUs were good to handle console ports from last gen since consoles were puny weak. With the packed extra power now, ports will be demanding. Go for extra power or you will need another upgrade next year. IF you can't get a 970, the you can get the 750ti, but I wouldn't recommend it. Avoid the 670, it's the same price of the 970 and way weaker. The 970 is basically 80% of a Titan.

Can't talk about AMD GPUs because I'm a NVidia only guy, but other will help you on this one. Use this site for comparisons: GPU Boss.


A GTX970 for 720p gaming?  Thats insane lol  Talk about overkill.  And also, your suggesting a GTX970 to him whilst knowing about his other hardware in his PC.  Do you not think the GTX970 would be bottlenecked somewhat by every other piece of hardware in his machine?

The Evil Within is one of the worst optimised games to hit the market in recent years so thats a very bad example to use in the first instance.  That game should run on much lower specs than it does.  



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The CPU is already bottlenecking you in some games. My old computer has a Core2Duo E8500 and the CPU is bottlenecking me in some games. even tho its roughly 25% faster than yours.

4GB of ram is actually pretty sufficient especially when you play at 720p,  That is for "last gen" games tho. "current gen" might even need more than 8 but there is not enough games out to be 100% sure.


Replacing the 6800 series GPU will help alot. Even if its the 6870 and not a 6850.
What 6800 series GPU do you have?
(My old PC had the 6870 then I replaced it with an AMD 7850 for 70€ Result? Significant boost)




kristianity77 said:


A GTX970 for 720p gaming?  Thats insane lol  Talk about overkill.  And also, your suggesting a GTX970 to him whilst knowing about his other hardware in his PC.  Do you not think the GTX970 would be bottlenecked somewhat by every other piece of hardware in his machine?

The Evil Within is one of the worst optimised games to hit the market in recent years so thats a very bad example to use in the first instance.  That game should run on much lower specs than it does.  


Oh, now I saw he's planning to keep his Core Duo. The best here would really build a new PC and get up to date parts.The CPU will bottleneck him for current games and he won't play nothing even with a new GPU. Consoles are with 6 cores for gaming, so expect more games to use 4 threads and his CPU won't do it. Upgrading this PC will just waste money, he needs a new build.

About the 970, of course it is an overkill for 720p gaming now. But it has a very good pricing and in the coming years games will rip GPUs apart. Evil Within is a badly optimized game, but it won't be the last. Something like a 750ti will give a lot of issues in 1 or 2 years, so it's better to go for extra power and be sure you can play it.

The PC version of the games is ported from consoles. Even if it's a good port, the added layers of software on PC demands a better hardware to match what was done on the console. If it's a bad port, and most games are, you need an even higher advantage. The 970 will give the advantage you need. It's not for now. It's for the next few years. All these 670s, 750s and equivalent GPUs won't be running a lot of games even on 720p. The most demanding time for upgrades on PCs is when the gen switches. Mid-gen things are a breeze, my old 650 played games on 1080p easily. The new gen made my GPU useless. The GPUs that are a little bit ahead in the power scale are the nexts to become useless.



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JazzB1987 said:

The CPU is already bottlenecking you in some games. My old computer has a Core2Duo E8500 and the CPU is bottlenecking me in some games. even tho its roughly 25% faster than yours.

4GB of ram is actually pretty sufficient especially when you play at 720p,  That is for "last gen" games tho. "current gen" might even need more than 8 but there is not enough games out to be 100% sure.

Replacing the 6800 series GPU will help alot. Even if its the 6870 and not a 6850.
What 6800 series GPU do you have?
(My old PC had the 6870 then I replaced it with an AMD 7850 for 70€ Result? Significant boost)

I think it is HD6850 in fact. Yes, I'll change GPU first, than will upgrade a RAM to 8/10 Gb (currently I have 4x1Gb blocks, will be 2x4 + 2x1. or maybe just put 8+1+1+1 now?).  CPU is OK for 10-15% overclock, so some extra juice is possible to squeese out of it.



A Radeon 6850/6870 is still more than sufficient for 720P, it will go toe to toe with a Radeon 7750/7770 and Radeon 250X, it's not going to last you "years". - But it should do fine for another 12 months of so.

What is truly holding you back is that Core 2 Duo and 4Gb of Ram.
I suggest you hold onto that Graphics Card for now and put your focus towards the CPU, Motherboard and Ram.

You *could* find a high-clocked Core 2 Quad second hand for cheap (If your motherboard supports it, I would need it's model number to know for sure.)
And drop in another 4Gb of Ram if you have the slots. (Or upgrade your current sticks to 4Gb sticks.)

Or, look towards an AMD CPU/Motherboard combination on the cheap, it's better price/performance in the low-end, unless you intend to overclock where Intel's Pentium Anniversary can be a blatant steal, even though it's "just" a Dual-Core.

If you *were* to upgrade your Graphics card and leave the rest of the system as-is, you really won't be changing your current gaming situation much, you will get higher framerates in games that aren't CPU heavy (Such as Diablo.) allowing you to turn on more bells and whistles such as AA, but in games which are CPU heavy? They would still be unplayable.
Games are also becoming increasingly more threaded, making a quad-core a minimum for any serious gaming machine, games such as Civilization hammer this point home.



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Just go for Intel CPU and mother board that supported and stay with Intel CPU, you can go with lower or medium GPU for know but don't go with AMD CPU.

750ti is a good choice for mid range but if you have more money you better look for 760 up.



HollyGamer said:
Just go for Intel CPU and mother board that supported and stay with Intel CPU, you can go with lower or medium GPU for know but don't go with AMD CPU.

750ti is a good choice for mid range but if you have more money you better look for 760 up.

There is absolutely no reason for this type of recomendation when considering his request. Intel CPU is absolutely not a requirement for a low end gaming rig. 

Something like an Athlon X4 860K and a cheap FM2+ mobo will not bottleneck him at all.

Only Intel processor that makes sense for his setup is the G3258 and that processor trades blows and performance with the 860K.



disolitude said:
HollyGamer said:
Just go for Intel CPU and mother board that supported and stay with Intel CPU, you can go with lower or medium GPU for know but don't go with AMD CPU.

750ti is a good choice for mid range but if you have more money you better look for 760 up.

There is absolutely no reason for this type of recomendation when considering his request. Intel CPU is absolutely not a requirement for a low end gaming rig. 

Something like an Athlon X4 860K and a cheap FM2+ mobo will not bottleneck him at all.

Only Intel processor that makes sense for his setup is the G3258 and that processor trades blows and performance with the 860K.

Even with lower card graphic, if you have a good CPU (heck even and i3 dual core is better if you are not considering ps2 emulator)  you can still play games more better. I am not saying Intel is better in all aplication benchmark, but Intel is more reliable for games most of the times even dual core on i3 is better then any quad core AMD card. more over it's just my preference.