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Forums - Sales Discussion - Destiny caused 500k+ returns of PS4.

DonFerrari on 05 November 2014
Imaginedvl said:
DonFerrari said:
celador said:
Yep, and they all went to X1, hence the undertracking


But ioi must decide how they will count the changes from PS4 to X1 (actually I think several people would gladly change Destiny PS4 or X1 for Halo MCC bundle if they could).

If only this white MMC bundle was available in North America! if only...


Don't you think they will make it available any time soon?

Certainly good value.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari on 05 November 2014
ironmanDX said:
Yeah. I was so disappointed, I traded in my xbox one with Destiny and bought a new xbox one as to make sure no destiny files remained in the HDD...

Clever or what?


If I had the money would do the same just to clean the strain of having owned Destiny.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Uabit on 05 November 2014

HAHAHAHA



Imaginedvl on 05 November 2014
DonFerrari said:
Imaginedvl said:

If only this white MMC bundle was available in North America! if only...


Don't you think they will make it available any time soon?

Certainly good value.

I'm hopeless :( I believe they did that in Brazil because they have a chance over there to take some lead on the Playstation 4...



DonFerrari on 05 November 2014
prinz_valium said:
DonFerrari said:
prinz_valium said:
okay because all u guys dont know i will tell u:

sony ps4 shipments end of june 10.2m
sony ps4 sold through 12th august 10m
sony ps4 shipments end of september 13.5

so after 10.2m shipped ps4, it took sony 1 1/2 month to sold through the same number
my best guess is 13.5m sold through ps4 the week before gtaV/far cry/lpb3 realse


its normal to have 1 1/2 month of sales sitting on shelfs, at distributors and in transit


Man you should really start respecting people with longer story here. They may know a lot more than you on the tracking... don't forget your completly out of reality.

VGC have PS4 250k undertracked for 10M announcement. And have just been extra underput 200k just this week, plus some estimated 150k undertracked in the period.

But you can keep underestimating PS4 as you like to do.

what is wrong with u?
all beside my last guess are official sony figures. u want to denie them?

stop overestimating urself and ur knowledge of anything sales and distribution related


and i do not defend any vgc numbers here. ur just cherrypicking. ps4 is still overtracked 95k end of september in the us. so who cares if it is undertracked 200k on the 10m announcement. thats just within the normal range of error. come back if its 500k - 1m of under-/overtracking


Nothing wrong with me, just your attitude.

Won't deny them, just your conclusion.

I'm not overestimating myself, as I don't think I'm a good (or old member) analyst. But just other day your were using even worst tone to a user that have been analysing numbers in here since 2007 and threated him as if he didn't even know what the sales mean.

I'm not even claiming undertracking here. And overtracking on USA don't reflect in anyway on RoW (vgc was 750k undertracked WW even with over 100k overtracked in USA). Don't worry we will see 1M undertracked soon enough. And ioi wasn't evenaccepting that he undertracked and insinuated Sony was lying.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari on 05 November 2014
Imaginedvl said:
DonFerrari said:
Imaginedvl said:

If only this white MMC bundle was available in North America! if only...


Don't you think they will make it available any time soon?

Certainly good value.

I'm hopeless :( I believe they did that in Brazil because they have a chance over there to take some lead on the Playstation 4...

Well they are a lot more competitive here, at least in official store. In grey market I have no idea.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

LudicrousSpeed on 05 November 2014
ironmanDX said:
Yeah. I was so disappointed, I traded in my xbox one with Destiny and bought a new xbox one as to make sure no destiny files remained in the HDD...

Clever or what?

You also need to close your XBL account and never put it on the new Xbone, or digital ownership and achievements from Destiny will taint them both.

Have to make a new account and start clean and fresh.



DonFerrari on 05 November 2014
LudicrousSpeed said:
ironmanDX said:
Yeah. I was so disappointed, I traded in my xbox one with Destiny and bought a new xbox one as to make sure no destiny files remained in the HDD...

Clever or what?

You also need to close your XBL account and never put it on the new Xbone, or digital ownership and achievements from Destiny will taint them both.

Have to make a new account and start clean and fresh.


Would trade console for Ouya to never risk being associated to it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

prinz_valium on 05 November 2014
DonFerrari said:


Nothing wrong with me, just your attitude.

Won't deny them, just your conclusion.

I'm not overestimating myself, as I don't think I'm a good (or old member) analyst. But just other day your were using even worst tone to a user that have been analysing numbers in here since 2007 and threated him as if he didn't even know what the sales mean.

I'm not even claiming undertracking here. And overtracking on USA don't reflect in anyway on RoW (vgc was 750k undertracked WW even with over 100k overtracked in USA). Don't worry we will see 1M undertracked soon enough. And ioi wasn't evenaccepting that he undertracked and insinuated Sony was lying.


link plz?
and im new. who should i know, if some1 is analysing numbers here since 2007? i can just jduge them on theire posts



DonFerrari on 05 November 2014
prinz_valium said:
DonFerrari said:
 


Nothing wrong with me, just your attitude.

Won't deny them, just your conclusion.

I'm not overestimating myself, as I don't think I'm a good (or old member) analyst. But just other day your were using even worst tone to a user that have been analysing numbers in here since 2007 and threated him as if he didn't even know what the sales mean.

I'm not even claiming undertracking here. And overtracking on USA don't reflect in anyway on RoW (vgc was 750k undertracked WW even with over 100k overtracked in USA). Don't worry we will see 1M undertracked soon enough. And ioi wasn't evenaccepting that he undertracked and insinuated Sony was lying.


link plz?
and im new. who should i know, if some1 is analysing numbers here since 2007? i can just jduge them on theire posts


Yes, you are new. So instead of assuming people don't know what they are talking about you should consider that they may know more than you think. And looking someone post count and signing date you can know how long the person is in here. But anyway respect should be given to everyone independent of how much the person knows.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."