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TiagoCosta said:
Scientificreason said:
TiagoCosta said:
Driveclub is bundled for free in Europe (both black and white console), I'm not surprised by the hold. US wise is clearly over tracked, it did and is currently doing worse on US online stores.. No way it's outselling it.

Forza didn't get any official bundle.

Huh,  where is your proof it's over tracked,? Online stores make up  a tiny portion of sales.  Where was it given for free?  The ps4 user base us larger and it was cheaper digitally.  If anything it is under tracked. 

You will get a huge proof when the monthly sales come out, I'm willing to bet if you want (that is over tracked).

UK and Portugal at least. It was ps4 + driveclub for 400 (black or white), now is ps4 + driveclub + minecraft for 400... Btw destiny Bundle was also free for a while, 2 weeks I believe.


In other words you have nothing.  Gotcha.  Ps4 user base is double it's not rocket science.  Forza is not a big seller....... DC also sold a lot digitally.  It is cheaper on psn. 



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Ninsect said:
true_fan said:
DonFerrari said:
Good numbers Driveclub, still above FH2. Altought we know the numbers will be revised.

Well this is according to VG, but if you look at the UK charts you will see that FH2 #7 is already back above DC #14, depite being released earlier. Personally I think VG is being a little generous with their driveclub numbers.

don't use UK for WW sales please. The global difference between PS4 and X1 is much bigger than it is in the UK.

I'm only using UK for the trend which is showing that DC is falling much faster.



Scientificreason said:
TiagoCosta said:
Scientificreason said:
TiagoCosta said:
Driveclub is bundled for free in Europe (both black and white console), I'm not surprised by the hold. US wise is clearly over tracked, it did and is currently doing worse on US online stores.. No way it's outselling it.

Forza didn't get any official bundle.

Huh,  where is your proof it's over tracked,? Online stores make up  a tiny portion of sales.  Where was it given for free?  The ps4 user base us larger and it was cheaper digitally.  If anything it is under tracked. 

You will get a huge proof when the monthly sales come out, I'm willing to bet if you want (that is over tracked).

UK and Portugal at least. It was ps4 + driveclub for 400 (black or white), now is ps4 + driveclub + minecraft for 400... Btw destiny Bundle was also free for a while, 2 weeks I believe.


In other words you have nothing.  Gotcha.  Ps4 user base is double it's not rocket science.  Forza is not a big seller....... DC also sold a lot digitally.  It is cheaper on psn. 

I'm talking about being over tracked in US, you need to review your math. Hint: us ps4 don't double xboxone sales.

As I said, Europe sales seem right.



Pleased for DC sales it's a good game, healthy sales is good news hopefully DC2 will get made and we get a great game, it's in there somewhere.



true_fan said:
Ninsect said:
true_fan said:
DonFerrari said:
Good numbers Driveclub, still above FH2. Altought we know the numbers will be revised.

Well this is according to VG, but if you look at the UK charts you will see that FH2 #7 is already back above DC #14, depite being released earlier. Personally I think VG is being a little generous with their driveclub numbers.

don't use UK for WW sales please. The global difference between PS4 and X1 is much bigger than it is in the UK.

I'm only using UK for the trend which is showing that DC is falling much faster.

See bold. Lol @ using the UK for a global trend dude...

And in any case, you are looking at DC's 3rd week in the UK charts. VGC is only showing its second week (where it also held pretty well in the UK)



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true_fan said:
Scientificreason said:

UK is the only place in Europe x1 is not getting destroyed.  The gap in sales us bigger elsewhere,  so that argument falls flat.  Forza has always been heavily bundled,  that's why it has legs.  DC will easily outsell it. 

Easily outsell it, yet it is already number 14 in the UK software chart while coming out 1 week later than the #7 FH2. Easily outsell =/= falling faster, especially considering the negative stigma attached to the game, look at the reviews for retailers. You are mistaken if you think easily outsell.


UK is not the world.  In fact it's sales are small.  Random online retailers?  Really reaching.  Sorry you will be wrong. 



Ninsect said:

See bold. Lol @ using the UK for a global trend dude...

And in any case, you are looking at DC's 3rd week in the UK charts. VGC is only showing its second week (where it also held pretty well in the UK)


Yup it's totally foolish using the one of, if not the biggest, racing markets as a standard. (In Europe)



true_fan said:
Ninsect said:

See bold. Lol @ using the UK for a global trend dude...

And in any case, you are looking at DC's 3rd week in the UK charts. VGC is only showing its second week (where it also held pretty well in the UK)


Yup it's totally foolish using the one of, if not the biggest, racing markets as a standard.

It is. Thanks for admitting that. Especially when the console sales ratios are vastly different there compared to Europe as a whole, the biggest territory for racing (where the ratio is more than 3:1 and growing)



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TiagoCosta said:
Scientificreason said:
TiagoCosta said:
Scientificreason said:
TiagoCosta said:
Driveclub is bundled for free in Europe (both black and white console), I'm not surprised by the hold. US wise is clearly over tracked, it did and is currently doing worse on US online stores.. No way it's outselling it.

Forza didn't get any official bundle.

Huh,  where is your proof it's over tracked,? Online stores make up  a tiny portion of sales.  Where was it given for free?  The ps4 user base us larger and it was cheaper digitally.  If anything it is under tracked. 

You will get a huge proof when the monthly sales come out, I'm willing to bet if you want (that is over tracked).

UK and Portugal at least. It was ps4 + driveclub for 400 (black or white), now is ps4 + driveclub + minecraft for 400... Btw destiny Bundle was also free for a while, 2 weeks I believe.


In other words you have nothing.  Gotcha.  Ps4 user base is double it's not rocket science.  Forza is not a big seller....... DC also sold a lot digitally.  It is cheaper on psn. 

I'm talking about being over tracked in US, you need to review your math. Hint: us ps4 don't double xboxone sales.

As I said, Europe sales seem right.

What math?  You have yet to show any that shows its over tracked. Ps4  has a bigger install base in the US.