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Username2324 on 02 March 2008
sc94597 said:
PooperScooper said:
SC - dude give it up. You're bent with this "Wii is just as powerful" nonsense. Just give it up dude. Let it go. Wii focused on gameplay and not power.

I beieve the hd consles are 3-5 times mre powerful how does tht = as powerfu?


They are far, far, FAR more powerful than that. What are you basing your stuff off of? Have you looked at the specs of the 3? Do you understand the architecture? Do you know how to develope games? You are just making wild guesses.

 We're in what's consider the "next-gen", here, I'll word it for you so you can understand, the PS3 and 360 are current-gen, the Wii is last-gen. 



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polishforlife on 02 March 2008

Please stop these stupid treads it only encourages flamebait. How many times we will see "Does Wii can run.." treads.



zackblue on 02 March 2008
sc94597 said:
Username2324 said:
sc94597 said:
Username2324 said:
sc94597 said:
By limits I mean 30fps with framerate drops. This is with min-no graphical deductions other than resolution.

The Wii couldn't run and 360 or PS3 game without alot of graphical reduction, simple as that.

I'm kind of getting tired of these "The Wii's Power" and "Wii almost as good as" kind of threads, is there really any point in asking. Any way you look at it the Wii is a underpowered console, and will never come close to matching the PS3 or 360. NEVER.

I mean seriously whats the point in asking "What PS3/360 game would push the wii to its limits?" and then saying "By lowering it to 30fps, lowering its resolution, and having graphical deductions". That's like asking how well would a 3 year old do running a mile against olympic runners without giving him a 20 minute headstart, letting him only run half the race, and having his dad carry him for awhile.


The point is to guess whatwii gmes will look like at the end of it's liftime. The wiisnt underpowerd the ps3/360 are overpwered.


The PS3 and 360 can actually be considered "next-gen" because of their power, the Wii isn't much more powerful than the original Xbox, all that's new with it is it's "godly" motion sensing.

Just to support jake_the_fake1, think about it, the 360 has a 3 core processor, and the PS3 has 7 SPEs as well as super-fast RAM, the Wii basically has a PowerPC G3 from 2002 and a lslightly overclocked Gamecube GPU. How much do you really think it can handle, the games out for it now are pushing it. There isn't any magical "developers will learn" trick for the Wii since it's all old technology that's been figured out unlike the 360 (which has now been figured out) and PS3 (which is beginning to be figured out).


 That proves my point on the ps360 being overpowered for  console. The wii is current gen and the ps360 is nextgen.


I dont understand your reasoning, first you defend the wii saying it barely weaker than the Xbox  360 or playstation 3, and now you state that its not a nex gen system, because the PS360 is "overpowered".

Look, we do not know the limit of the PS3 nor the wii. Therefore please dont start screaming as if the wii is hiding 90% of its power.



 

 2008 end of year predictions:

PS3: 22M

360: 25M

wii: 40M

DMeisterJ on 02 March 2008

Where is meseteto with the cat pics?

This thread phails.

The O.P. just wants justification that the Wii is capable of PS360 graphics.



sc94597 on 02 March 2008
Username2324 said:
sc94597 said:
PooperScooper said:
SC - dude give it up. You're bent with this "Wii is just as powerful" nonsense. Just give it up dude. Let it go. Wii focused on gameplay and not power.

I beieve the hd consles are 3-5 times mre powerful how does tht = as powerfu?


They are far, far, FAR more powerful than that. What are you basing your stuff off of? Have you looked at the specs of the 3? Do you understand the architecture? Do you know how to develope games? You are just making wild guesses.


 We don't have full specs for the Wii. The wii does have the least bottlenecks and is the most energy efficient. I say 5 times more powerful is a good guess. 

We are getting off-topic anyway. Also the differnce between the ppc and wiis chip is the wiis chip is seperatd ino units making it mnyimesmore efficent. The gpu  in the wii is about 3times mre powerfl than the gcs and 20% more effient.



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totalwar23 on 02 March 2008

Oh dear god-sc94597, let's not do this. Just...ugh...



sc94597 on 02 March 2008
zackblue said:
sc94597 said:
Username2324 said:
sc94597 said:
Username2324 said:
sc94597 said:
By limits I mean 30fps with framerate drops. This is with min-no graphical deductions other than resolution.

The Wii couldn't run and 360 or PS3 game without alot of graphical reduction, simple as that.

I'm kind of getting tired of these "The Wii's Power" and "Wii almost as good as" kind of threads, is there really any point in asking. Any way you look at it the Wii is a underpowered console, and will never come close to matching the PS3 or 360. NEVER.

I mean seriously whats the point in asking "What PS3/360 game would push the wii to its limits?" and then saying "By lowering it to 30fps, lowering its resolution, and having graphical deductions". That's like asking how well would a 3 year old do running a mile against olympic runners without giving him a 20 minute headstart, letting him only run half the race, and having his dad carry him for awhile.


The point is to guess whatwii gmes will look like at the end of it's liftime. The wiisnt underpowerd the ps3/360 are overpwered.


The PS3 and 360 can actually be considered "next-gen" because of their power, the Wii isn't much more powerful than the original Xbox, all that's new with it is it's "godly" motion sensing.

Just to support jake_the_fake1, think about it, the 360 has a 3 core processor, and the PS3 has 7 SPEs as well as super-fast RAM, the Wii basically has a PowerPC G3 from 2002 and a lslightly overclocked Gamecube GPU. How much do you really think it can handle, the games out for it now are pushing it. There isn't any magical "developers will learn" trick for the Wii since it's all old technology that's been figured out unlike the 360 (which has now been figured out) and PS3 (which is beginning to be figured out).


That proves my point on the ps360 being overpowered for console. The wii is current gen and the ps360 is nextgen.


I dont understand your reasoning, first you defend the wii saying it barely weaker than the Xbox 360 or playstation 3, and now you state that its not a nex gen system, because the PS360 is "overpowered".

Look, we do not know the limit of the PS3 nor the wii. Therefore please dont start screaming as if the wii is hiding 90% of its power.


 Because we aren't in the 8th gen. The xbox 360 and ps3 are what we should have seen in terms of graphics in he 8th gen.

This tread was not a whih cosole is  the mosrt powerful thread.

It isn't about the ps3/360.

It's to get a general guess  on how the wii's graphics would look at the end of its life.

I'm ot posting in here anymore. Pm me if you wanna talk bout it.

 



Username2324 on 02 March 2008
sc94597 said:
Username2324 said:
sc94597 said:
PooperScooper said:
SC - dude give it up. You're bent with this "Wii is just as powerful" nonsense. Just give it up dude. Let it go. Wii focused on gameplay and not power.

I beieve the hd consles are 3-5 times mre powerful how does tht = as powerfu?


They are far, far, FAR more powerful than that. What are you basing your stuff off of? Have you looked at the specs of the 3? Do you understand the architecture? Do you know how to develope games? You are just making wild guesses.


We don't have full specs for the Wii. The wii does have the least bottlenecks and is the most energy efficient. I say 5 times more powerful is a good guess.

We are getting off-topic anyway. Also the differnce between the ppc and wiis chip is the wiis chip is seperatd ino units making it mnyimesmore efficent. The gpu in the wii is about 3times mre powerfl than the gcs and 20% more effient.

Here we go again, where are your sources? You have none, and what does energy efficiency have to do with? Yes it uses less power, because it is less powerful.

So just because you THINK it has the least bottlenecks that means you can guess its power? SOURCES?! 

 Again, where are your soucres, everywhere I've read people think the Wii is about 50% more powerful than the gamecube, even Wikipedia put that up as its unofficial specs. 

Just please quit with these "The Wii is almost as powerful" threads its obviously not true, and you have no sources. The Wii is a weakling, just face it. 



Username2324 on 02 March 2008

The Wii won't be much farther than it already is at the end of its life, like I said, there's no hidden potential, no secrets to be unlocked, its figured out.



BMaker11 on 02 March 2008

Pac-Man: HD