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SleepWaking on 03 March 2008

Doesn't anyone see this is just a lame excuse for only implementing one language in every region??



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KBG29 on 03 March 2008

I am not suprised. It is good to here he will be taking advantage of everything that he can at the current time, but it sucks because we are so close to the point were he could have done even more. I wish that their was a larger push for 100GB Blu-ray discs, because we are in dire need of the space. Movies like Star Wars and Lord of the rings need it to keep Blu-ray quality throughout, and games like FFXIII, God of War, and Getaway need it to make them truly shine. People can argue against it all day, but the truth is we need it.



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Avinash_Tyagi on 03 March 2008
Auron said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Tons of Cutscenes and movies, MGS4: you don't play the game, you watch it

 Do you wake up in the morning and think to yourself "What dumbass comment(s) can i make on VGchartz today"?  Or are you just naturally like this without even trying?


 Sorry but if you do not realize that MGS4 is going to stuffed full of pointless cutscenes and movies then you are deluded



 

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NJ5 on 03 March 2008

I think this is a load of bull-crap. They have said time and again that a big contributor to the size of this game is the uncompressed audio.

Now, with the Cell CPU being so good at decompressing data, one would think that at least they'd use a lossless audio compression algorithm (such as FLAC), which can cut the audio size by 50% without ANY loss in quality (much like zip/rar compression, it can recover the original data with 100% accuracy).

This is not to mention the fact that the vast majority of people don't have the audio equipment or ears to actually tell the difference between lossless and lossy audio (at decent bitrates, such as 192-320 Kbits/s for MP3).

 



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starcraft on 03 March 2008
Rath said:
I would be willing to bet an X360 port could be done with one DVD.

Sure you would have to sacrifice the pre-rendered cutscenes to some extent, slightly compress the audio and some of the textures but you would get the same game onto one DVD which would be just as fun.

Absolutely.  Especially seeing as the online component is seperate.  GeoW has the online component on the disk, as does Halo 3.  How long is MGS4 going to be?



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CrazzyMan on 03 March 2008

GREAT news!

I hope everyone is happy. =)
Knowing Kojima, you can be sure, thet he filled the disc with GREAT stuff!
Blu-ray FTW! =)



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Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

bbsin on 03 March 2008
starcraft said:
Rath said:
I would be willing to bet an X360 port could be done with one DVD.

Sure you would have to sacrifice the pre-rendered cutscenes to some extent, slightly compress the audio and some of the textures but you would get the same game onto one DVD which would be just as fun.

Absolutely. Especially seeing as the online component is seperate. GeoW has the online component on the disk, as does Halo 3. How long is MGS4 going to be?


MGO is not a multiplayer mode of MGS4 like MGS3:S and MGS:PO, it's a different game with different interface built ground up by a different team. The only thing it has in common is the MetalGear brand and the engine.

Anyways, it's very possible that the programmers had to span parts of the data multiple times on the BluRay disk to make the loading times better due to the bluray's slow disk reading.

Avinas_tyagi: Pointless?? I'm sorry but you're so full of fanboy BS that it's just getting annoying. Get a life and quit trolling, only a bitter moron would say that MGS is a game that you watch and not play. Ofcourse if there were a MGS minigame for the Wii you'd probably jump all over it huh?



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starcraft on 03 March 2008
bbsin said:
 

 

Avinas_tyagi: Pointless?? I'm sorry but you're so full of fanboy BS that it's just getting annoying. Get a life and quit trolling, only a bitter moron would say that MGS is a game that you watch and not play. Ofcourse if there were a MGS minigame for the Wii you'd probably jump all over it huh?


This is such obvious trolling.  But I don't mind because it is quite funny.  Much as I normally hate it when people criticise the Wii, you gotta love this call.

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bbsin on 03 March 2008
starcraft said:
bbsin said:
 

 

Avinas_tyagi: Pointless?? I'm sorry but you're so full of fanboy BS that it's just getting annoying. Get a life and quit trolling, only a bitter moron would say that MGS is a game that you watch and not play. Ofcourse if there were a MGS minigame for the Wii you'd probably jump all over it huh?


This is such obvious trolling. But I don't mind because it is quite funny. Much as I normally hate it when people criticise the Wii, you gotta love this call.

 There's a fine line between someone trying to be funny and someone trying to stir things up. It's a shame that some people spends their days trying to hurt a product that isn't on their favorite companies' lineup.



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Avinash_Tyagi on 03 March 2008

Actually MGS was on the GCN, it has nothing to do with the console, the series relies too heavily on cutscenes



 

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