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3sexty said:


Well there you go.  Don't believe everything you read on GAF :)...360 owners are now truly moving over to XONE in earnest.  

My God, just calm yourself down. They bought the XB1 because it was dirt cheap, not because of any loyalty. This is ONE month out of a full year of being beaten. For a FULL year hundreds of Gaffers moved over to the PS4 from the 360.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:
3sexty said:


Well there you go.  Don't believe everything you read on GAF :)...360 owners are now truly moving over to XONE in earnest.  

My God, just calm yourself down. They bought the XB1 because it was dirt cheap, not because of any loyalty. This is ONE month out of a full year of being beaten. For a FULL year hundreds of Gaffers moved over to the PS4 from the 360.

I'm sorry if you felt my comment was aggressive which it wasn't by the way. I was merely making a statement about how I think that the vast majority of Xbox 360 owners in the U.S are most likely going to upgrade to XBONE and the latest NPD supports this albeit with the help of a price advantage too. Again sorry if I offended you man!



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3sexty said:
GribbleGrunger said:
3sexty said:


Well there you go.  Don't believe everything you read on GAF :)...360 owners are now truly moving over to XONE in earnest.  

My God, just calm yourself down. They bought the XB1 because it was dirt cheap, not because of any loyalty. This is ONE month out of a full year of being beaten. For a FULL year hundreds of Gaffers moved over to the PS4 from the 360.

I'm sorry if you felt my comment was aggressive which it wasn't by the way. I was merely making a statement about how I think that the vast majority of Xbox 360 owners in the U.S are most likely going to upgrade to XBONE and the latest NPD supports this albeit with the help of a price advantage too. Again sorry if I offended you man!


I don't think that means what you think it means :P

Serious question, why do you get so excited about a brand name? As a 360 owner I couldn't care less whether or not the One succeeds or fails because I can simply purchase a PS4 and get a comperable experience.



bouzane said:
3sexty said:
GribbleGrunger said:
3sexty said:


Well there you go.  Don't believe everything you read on GAF :)...360 owners are now truly moving over to XONE in earnest.  

My God, just calm yourself down. They bought the XB1 because it was dirt cheap, not because of any loyalty. This is ONE month out of a full year of being beaten. For a FULL year hundreds of Gaffers moved over to the PS4 from the 360.

I'm sorry if you felt my comment was aggressive which it wasn't by the way. I was merely making a statement about how I think that the vast majority of Xbox 360 owners in the U.S are most likely going to upgrade to XBONE and the latest NPD supports this albeit with the help of a price advantage too. Again sorry if I offended you man!


I don't think that means what you think it means :P

Serious question, why do you get so excited about a brand name? As a 360 owner I couldn't care less whether or not the One succeeds or fails because I can simply purchase a PS4 and get a comperable experience.

I do like MS products and certainly like the Xbox from a gaming perspective.  However that aside, I have an interest in console sales just as I am sure you do otherwiwe we would not be on this site enjoying these discussions. And discussing, predicting the sales of favourite consoles is what the majority of people do here. Lets not pretend it is about anything else.  I have long held the view that the argument regarding most x360 owners migrating over to ps4 is a flawed assumption and that these holidays in the U.S would illustrate my point. - Hence my response to the purely anecdotal comment of several hundred people on GAF moving over to PS4. So tell us, what do you likee about this site. What motivates your thread discussions and posts?



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3sexty said:
bouzane said:
3sexty said:
GribbleGrunger said:
3sexty said:


Well there you go.  Don't believe everything you read on GAF :)...360 owners are now truly moving over to XONE in earnest.  

My God, just calm yourself down. They bought the XB1 because it was dirt cheap, not because of any loyalty. This is ONE month out of a full year of being beaten. For a FULL year hundreds of Gaffers moved over to the PS4 from the 360.

I'm sorry if you felt my comment was aggressive which it wasn't by the way. I was merely making a statement about how I think that the vast majority of Xbox 360 owners in the U.S are most likely going to upgrade to XBONE and the latest NPD supports this albeit with the help of a price advantage too. Again sorry if I offended you man!


I don't think that means what you think it means :P

Serious question, why do you get so excited about a brand name? As a 360 owner I couldn't care less whether or not the One succeeds or fails because I can simply purchase a PS4 and get a comperable experience.

I do like MS products and certainly like the Xbox from a gaming perspective.  However that aside, I have an interest in console sales just as I am sure you do otherwiwe we would not be on this site enjoying these discussions. And discussing, predicting the sales of favourite consoles is what the majority of people do here. Lets not pretend it is about anything else.  I have long held the view that the argument regarding most x360 owners migrating over to ps4 is a flawed assumption and that these holidays in the U.S would illustrate my point. - Hence my response to the purely anecdotal comment of several hundred people on GAF moving over to PS4. So tell us, what do you likee about this site. What motivates your thread discussions and posts?

It's not flawed that 360 owners switched it's been proven with actual data. All you did was refuse to believe it, then used the one month x1 won and used it as proof that you were right. The only thing any of this data shows me is people want to spend as little money as possible. Which makes sense cause that was one of my number one reasons. Could care less about either of these companies I don't trust either one of them.



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Dgc1808 said:
What the fuck does "globally in the US" mean?!


It's a joke on the people that act like winning NPD = winning global sales.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

3sexty said:
GribbleGrunger said:
3sexty said:


Well there you go.  Don't believe everything you read on GAF :)...360 owners are now truly moving over to XONE in earnest.  

My God, just calm yourself down. They bought the XB1 because it was dirt cheap, not because of any loyalty. This is ONE month out of a full year of being beaten. For a FULL year hundreds of Gaffers moved over to the PS4 from the 360.

I'm sorry if you felt my comment was aggressive which it wasn't by the way. I was merely making a statement about how I think that the vast majority of Xbox 360 owners in the U.S are most likely going to upgrade to XBONE and the latest NPD supports this albeit with the help of a price advantage too. Again sorry if I offended you man!

One month of winning by a small margin does not = proving what you said correct lol.  1/12 is an F.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Eddie_Raja said:
3sexty said:
GribbleGrunger said:
3sexty said:


Well there you go.  Don't believe everything you read on GAF :)...360 owners are now truly moving over to XONE in earnest.  

My God, just calm yourself down. They bought the XB1 because it was dirt cheap, not because of any loyalty. This is ONE month out of a full year of being beaten. For a FULL year hundreds of Gaffers moved over to the PS4 from the 360.

I'm sorry if you felt my comment was aggressive which it wasn't by the way. I was merely making a statement about how I think that the vast majority of Xbox 360 owners in the U.S are most likely going to upgrade to XBONE and the latest NPD supports this albeit with the help of a price advantage too. Again sorry if I offended you man!

One month of winning by a small margin does not = proving what you said correct lol.  1/12 is an F.

The biggest 1/12th of the year. Then what when the trend continues in Dec and of course the next holidays. 400k diff for one month is really significant. That is like big and the difference in the U.S is getting smaller. So you don't think that there will be an XBONE lead in the U.S after all is said and done.



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3sexty said:
bouzane said:
3sexty said:
GribbleGrunger said:
3sexty said:


Well there you go.  Don't believe everything you read on GAF :)...360 owners are now truly moving over to XONE in earnest.  

My God, just calm yourself down. They bought the XB1 because it was dirt cheap, not because of any loyalty. This is ONE month out of a full year of being beaten. For a FULL year hundreds of Gaffers moved over to the PS4 from the 360.

I'm sorry if you felt my comment was aggressive which it wasn't by the way. I was merely making a statement about how I think that the vast majority of Xbox 360 owners in the U.S are most likely going to upgrade to XBONE and the latest NPD supports this albeit with the help of a price advantage too. Again sorry if I offended you man!


I don't think that means what you think it means :P

Serious question, why do you get so excited about a brand name? As a 360 owner I couldn't care less whether or not the One succeeds or fails because I can simply purchase a PS4 and get a comperable experience.

I do like MS products and certainly like the Xbox from a gaming perspective.  However that aside, I have an interest in console sales just as I am sure you do otherwiwe we would not be on this site enjoying these discussions. And discussing, predicting the sales of favourite consoles is what the majority of people do here. Lets not pretend it is about anything else.  I have long held the view that the argument regarding most x360 owners migrating over to ps4 is a flawed assumption and that these holidays in the U.S would illustrate my point. - Hence my response to the purely anecdotal comment of several hundred people on GAF moving over to PS4. So tell us, what do you likee about this site. What motivates your thread discussions and posts?


The 360 outsold the PS3 by approximately 66 percent in the USA LTD. The XBOne outsold the PS4 by approximately 36% in the USA during November. Basic logic dictates that the migration of Xbox gamers to the Playstation brand continued during November which was by far the best the XBOne has performed versus the PS4 all year. Your assertion that 360 owners are not migrating over to the PS4 is verifiably false, even during the XBOne's absolute peak. Additionally, I find it highly unlikely that Microsoft is going to continue to run the Xbox division as if it were a charity.

I like visiting this site to learn about the gaming industry. I do not have any console prefernce, I have migrated from one brand to another and have owned more than two dozen systems manufactured by eight different companies. I do not root for a specific system although I have been called a fanboy of SEGA, Nintendo, Playstation, Xbox and PC on many occasions. I come here to gain a greater understanding of the trends that influence the industry that I love. I also love watching people make completely uneducated guesses and ludicrous predictions based upon wishful thinking and personal bias instead of the information we have available to us.

TL/DR

Even if the Xbox division could maintain these loses (Spoiler: they can't) the XBOne will still cede a considerable portion of the American market to the PS4.

I come here because I like understanding the video game industry, not to be a cheerleader for any particular console or brand :P



bouzane said:
3sexty said:
bouzane said:
3sexty said:
GribbleGrunger said:
3sexty said:


Well there you go.  Don't believe everything you read on GAF :)...360 owners are now truly moving over to XONE in earnest.  

My God, just calm yourself down. They bought the XB1 because it was dirt cheap, not because of any loyalty. This is ONE month out of a full year of being beaten. For a FULL year hundreds of Gaffers moved over to the PS4 from the 360.

I'm sorry if you felt my comment was aggressive which it wasn't by the way. I was merely making a statement about how I think that the vast majority of Xbox 360 owners in the U.S are most likely going to upgrade to XBONE and the latest NPD supports this albeit with the help of a price advantage too. Again sorry if I offended you man!


I don't think that means what you think it means :P

Serious question, why do you get so excited about a brand name? As a 360 owner I couldn't care less whether or not the One succeeds or fails because I can simply purchase a PS4 and get a comperable experience.

I do like MS products and certainly like the Xbox from a gaming perspective.  However that aside, I have an interest in console sales just as I am sure you do otherwiwe we would not be on this site enjoying these discussions. And discussing, predicting the sales of favourite consoles is what the majority of people do here. Lets not pretend it is about anything else.  I have long held the view that the argument regarding most x360 owners migrating over to ps4 is a flawed assumption and that these holidays in the U.S would illustrate my point. - Hence my response to the purely anecdotal comment of several hundred people on GAF moving over to PS4. So tell us, what do you likee about this site. What motivates your thread discussions and posts?


The 360 outsold the PS3 by approximately 66 percent in the USA LTD. The XBOne outsold the PS4 by approximately 36% in the USA during November. Basic logic dictates that the migration of Xbox gamers to the Playstation brand continued during November which was by far the best the XBOne has performed versus the PS4 all year. Your assertion that 360 owners are not migrating over to the PS4 is verifiably false, even during the XBOne's absolute peak. Additionally, I find it highly unlikely that Microsoft is going to continue to run the Xbox division as if it were a charity.

I like visiting this site to learn about the gaming industry. I do not have any console prefernce, I have migrated from one brand to another and have owned more than two dozen systems manufactured by eight different companies. I do not root for a specific system although I have been called a fanboy of SEGA, Nintendo, Playstation, Xbox and PC on many occasions. I come here to gain a greater understanding of the trends that influence the industry that I love. I also love watching people make completely uneducated guesses and ludicrous predictions based upon wishful thinking and personal bias instead of the information we have available to us.

TL/DR

Even if the Xbox division could maintain these loses (Spoiler: they can't) the XBOne will still cede a considerable portion of the American market to the PS4.

I come here because I like understanding the video game industry, not to be a cheerleader for any particular console or brand :P

Are you therefore predicting that the XBOX division will not be able to maintain any losses that are being incurred as a result of the recent deals and price cuts. If so why aren't  MS' financial modelling and planning capturing this as a major flaw to their current gaming business model. Is there something you know that MS doesn't ? I m not professing to know their accounting methods or how they balance their sheets but I am sure they would have factored these measures and decisions into the larger business plan better than you and I could :)



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