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Forums - Gaming Discussion - XB1 will win November NPD, and that's what it deserves

 

Do you think it will?

Yes 248 24.63%
 
No 581 57.70%
 
Maybe 174 17.28%
 
Total:1,003

Nobody deserves to win anything. Did the Wii deserve being the best selling console last gen? I don't think so but that's not how it it works. Consumers are going to buy the console that appeals to them more, and it might be XBO or PS4. We'll see.



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Vena said:
GTAexpert said:

So you'd trust GiantBomb's review of Driveclub? I've PLAYED Driveclub and I know how awesome the game is. The only other problems mentioned in reviews are less SP content and tough AI, neither of which matter as the tough AI is actually a positive and the game is highly multiplayer oriented.

As for The Order: 1886 I never said anything about the developer's promises, I just gave you the Metacritic scores of their previous games. If it matters for Driveclub, it matters for them too.

Though I know you won't change your mind. I know you have a history of bashing almost everything on PlayStation. I can't change your mind, neither can a hundred PS4 exclusives do that for you.


I'd trust myself as well as I've played both (by virtue of having friends, we have regular gaming sessions for new releases amongst the three consoles owned within the collective). Driveclub looks great, amazing even, but it plays badly behind really questionable AI and handling. Even if I were to disregard that a major selling of the game doesn't work, the game just doesn't play as well as its competition or predecessors on the playstation brand.

The Orders developers have never worked on an actual AAA game, or even a console game outside of a collections series. There is a reason I don't compare there previous output to their current output. Same reason I don't compare a surgeon and an electrician on their abilities to build houses.

I also have friends, but not many are gamers. Only one of my friends has FH2 on XB1, and he says its amazing, but I haven't played it myself. That said, I don't need to compare DC to FH2. DC is an awesome game, maybe not as much as FH2, but its still awesome. Its gameplay is its high point, I don't see what's wrong with its handling, maybe you expected a sim? Its handling is very good, its AI is tough and aggressive but makes every race interesting.

The Order: 1886 developers have only made AAA games. I don't understand how Daxter, GOW: COO and GOW: GOS aren't AAA games, they very much are. They clearly are a very good developer but you woulsd obviosly downplay them just because you dislike PlayStation.



I never understand the "it deserves" line of thinking. I read a post that said Sunset Overdrive deserves to sell well. How does anyone even know that at this point? Furthermore, what makes a game or game console "deserve" something?



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FentonCrackshell said:
I never understand the "it deserves" line of thinking. I read a post that said Sunset Overdrive deserves to sell well. How does anyone even know that at this point? Furthermore, what makes a game or game console "deserve" something?

Bias?



GTAexpert said:

The Order: 1886 developers have only made AAA games. I don't understand how Daxter, GOW: COO and GOW: GOS aren't AAA games, they very much are. They clearly are a very good developer but you woulsd obviosly downplay them just because you dislike PlayStation.


We'll leave aside Driveclub as that has slipped into pure opinion pieces on the game. :P

I said console. Ready at Dawn was a portable developer, this is their first actual foray into building a AAA console exclusive from the ground-up.



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To be honest I think people have been way too hard on MS. My brother got the Sunset Overdrive bundle yesterday and I got to spend an extended amount of time with the console.

Even though I chose the PS4 (really basically only because it has the extra horsepower), I actually like the XBox 1 hardware better otherwise. The system is much quieter and I actually like the TV integration and OS better. The controller has more comfortable analog sticks too I find.

And the exclusives are better. Killer Instinct is freaking awesome. Love it. Sunset Overdrive is cool. Titan Fall is alright. Dead Rising is fun. The only exclusive I'm really crazy about on the PS4 right now is Last Of Us which is a game I already played on PS3.



As things currently stand (i.e. without seeing what, if anything, Sony has planned) I think the Xbox One does have a solid chance of winning November. Aside from the baseline boost and heightened appeal of the cheaper stuff, we should keep in mind that two bundles worth of pre-orders will be getting redeemed in that month, along with any poor sods who were going to get the Sunset Overdrive bundle, only to cancel/return their pre-order for a week for the fifty bucks off. While the pre-orders hadn't, until recently, been notable, it's still at least a small boost the PS4 isn't going to get, in the same way the Destiny bundle pre-orders gave the PS4 a gigantic boost in its launch week.

Honestly, if Sony DOESN'T end up doing anything notable, (i.e. doesn't release anything more than a ten buck off bundle,) I actually hope Microsoft does pull off November. =P The more the Xbox One has its price drops, bundles, and various increasingly costly measures intended to draw in customers, only to get outsold by the PS4 in its home market anyway with minimal effort from Sony, it is preeeetty much just going to reinforce the sense of 'Yyyyyup, we got these markets on lock." As happy as I am seeing the PS4 selling so well, would be nice to have their heels nipped at, even on occasion, to avoid Xbox 360 levels of dominance.



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Vena said:
GTAexpert said:

The Order: 1886 developers have only made AAA games. I don't understand how Daxter, GOW: COO and GOW: GOS aren't AAA games, they very much are. They clearly are a very good developer but you woulsd obviosly downplay them just because you dislike PlayStation.


We'll leave aside Driveclub as that has slipped into pure opinion pieces on the game. :P

I said console. Ready at Dawn was a portable developer, this is their first actual foray into building a AAA console exclusive from the ground-up.

Their previous games were released on PSP but were as good as the console games in the series. So even if this might be their first game on a console it isn't the first time they are developing a console quality game.



Soundwave said:
To be honest I think people have been way too hard on MS. My brother got the Sunset Overdrive bundle yesterday and I got to spend an extended amount of time with the console.

Even though I chose the PS4 (really basically only because it has the extra horsepower), I actually like the XBox 1 hardware better otherwise. The system is much quieter and I actually like the TV integration and OS better. The controller has more comfortable analog sticks too I find.

And the exclusives are better. Killer Instinct is freaking awesome. Love it. Sunset Overdrive is cool. Titan Fall is alright. Dead Rising is fun. The only exclusive I'm really crazy about on the PS4 right now is Last Of Us which is a game I already played on PS3.

Have you played Infamous: Second Son and Driveclub? They are awesome games, better than what the ratings suggest.

Though overall, I do think that XB1 has more exclusive worth playing right now, but it is also getting LBP 3 and GG Xrd SIGN this year and many more exclusives next year, so that would change.

I agree with the OS part, and with Windows 10 coming to XB1 it will be even better. But that should be expected, its from MS after all.



One think I will tell you guys...

After all these months I will be extremely surprised if Xbone win the NPD November and if it happens it will be more due the CoD bundle at $350 than MCC.