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Chazore said:
Ninsect said:

If you can get almost everything there and the most power for cheap why wouldn't you get that console?

because it still doesn't have anything that interests me and is still expensive with features I could care less about?.

 

Other two are offering me games I want, features are still meh but at least there's something those two are providing me and then there's PC for their exclusives and Indies that come first and then to the other 3 platforms so I'm more covered there than I would ever be on a PS4.

well then you belong to the minority. Power, the most games, cheap, sexy, promise, brand are the key words.

 

PS: you couldn't* care less



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Ninsect said:
Chazore said:
Ninsect said:

If you can get almost everything there and the most power for cheap why wouldn't you get that console?

because it still doesn't have anything that interests me and is still expensive with features I could care less about?.

 

Other two are offering me games I want, features are still meh but at least there's something those two are providing me and then there's PC for their exclusives and Indies that come first and then to the other 3 platforms so I'm more covered there than I would ever be on a PS4.

well then you belong to the minority. Power, the most games, cheap, sexy, promise, brand are the key words.

 

PS: you couldn't* care less


I'm in a minority?, the PS4 numebrs compared to say the rest of the planets population that doesn't have a PS4 yet and I'm in the minortiy?.

 

Power - I have a PC, the PC always wins that argument and will always trump a console

The most games - PC wins that again with multiplats and their own exclusives

Cheap - so far I'm seeing the Wii U and XB1 being cheaper along with last gen hardware and PC upgrades, PS4 is expensive where I am whether you like to admit that fact or not, you cannot overide someone's view of currency with your own claiming something is cheap when clearly others have a different view on value.

 

Sexy - Subjective, didn't know we were talking about how sexy a piece of plastic is, I've seen custom PC cases more sexier than a standalone PS4 template that's not unique because everyone is getting the same shape.

 

Promise - I see promise in all corners, MS shows me promise, Nintendo and even PC, you cannot tell me with a straight face that Sony is literally the only company in the world to only show promise, that's a proper lie if ever I've seen one.

Brand are the key words - Other brands I've seen sell quite well, PC even, not only related to Sony.

 

So instead of trying to "pursuade" me or even accept that the PS4 just doesn't have the power to grip me you're going to throw out poor examples that have been done or trumped by others and then go on to grammar nazi me at the end?.



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kowenicki said:
Train wreck said:
kowenicki said:
Intersting isnt it... that despite this it will still be one of the lowest years ever for playstation shipments.

2nd lowest in the last 8 years.

Just think about that.


There is nothing to really think about.  We know that the culprit is the severe decline in handheld gaming...which has been talked about to death here over the past three years.


Of course. But it doesnt alter the fact that gaming is a much smaller business now than it was.... and it wont be just handhelds either by the end of the gen despite what people think.

 

Eh gaming is bigger than ever, its just spread to more platforms, namely those with an apple and an android on the box. Nintendo, Sony and MS arent the begining and end of gaming. 



This is kind of to be expected with dropping 3DS sales.



Rafie said:
outlawauron said:

Retailers are Sony's customers, not you. They are able to track their shipments as they fulfill orders and rely on tracking services like NPD and Media Create for the number of consoles purchases at retailers by end users.

So basically what you're saying is that retailers paid Sony for the shipments they received....which in turn Sony made revenue off of that, right?! Right...

Same thing with Xbox and the 5 1/2 million, correct?

Precisely. There are agreements and contracts between distributors (Sony, MS, and Nintendo) if they can't move the stock, but that isn't a major issue with these products due to lack of channel stuffing (overshipping).



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kowenicki said:
Fusioncode said:
kowenicki said:


When other areas of the business where profitable.  Its a different world and a different Sony now. There is a very good reason why subscription services will be the main focus, digital is the future and gaming as a service will eventually kill consoles.

That's funny, I don't remember you saying that until after the XBO started selling poorly... Now it doesn't matter how well PS4 sells right because all consoles are going to die one day? I wonder if the XBO was winning in sales would you be saying the same thing? 

yes I know people here dont want to hear it but they all mocked me for years when I said mobile would kill handhelds and ultimately affect consoles too...

Because you've never had a wrong prediction right? 




i was saying the same last gen.... thats the point.

of course I had wrong predictions... you?

What point? I'm struggling to see what effect subscription services are currently having on consoles. I mean the PS4 is the fastest selling console in history. I know that's hard for some peopler to hear. Yes gaming will eventually have a big shift and everything will change, but the fact that you're using it as an excuse to downplay the PS4's success in just baffling. When all consoles start doing terribly and everyone is using subscription services or whatever then you may have a point. But until then, PS4 is doing great. The shipment numbers are fantastic. There is absolutely no reason to downplay its sales unless you have an agenda. 



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Chazore said:
Ninsect said:

well then you belong to the minority. Power, the most games, cheap, sexy, promise, brand are the key words.

 

PS: you couldn't* care less


I'm in a minority?, the PS4 numebrs compared to say the rest of the planets population that doesn't have a PS4 yet and I'm in the minortiy?.

 

Power - I have a PC, the PC always wins that argument and will always trump a console

The most games - PC wins that again with multiplats and their own exclusives

Cheap - so far I'm seeing the Wii U and XB1 being cheaper along with last gen hardware and PC upgrades, PS4 is expensive where I am whether you like to admit that fact or not, you cannot overide someone's view of currency with your own claiming something is cheap when clearly others have a different view on value.

 

Sexy - Subjective, didn't know we were talking about how sexy a piece of plastic is, I've seen custom PC cases more sexier than a standalone PS4 template that's not unique because everyone is getting the same shape.

 

Promise - I see promise in all corners, MS shows me promise, Nintendo and even PC, you cannot tell me with a straight face that Sony is literally the only company in the world to only show promise, that's a proper lie if ever I've seen one.

Brand are the key words - Other brands I've seen sell quite well, PC even, not only related to Sony.

 

So instead of trying to "pursuade" me or even accept that the PS4 just doesn't have the power to grip me you're going to throw out poor examples that have been done or trumped by others and then go on to grammar nazi me at the end?.

Oh you're fun, aren't you?

"Other two are offering me games I want, features are still meh but at least there's something those two are providing me" - that's the minority

The key words are reasons for why PS4 is so popular. Neither WiiU nor XB1 has all of them.

I am not trying to persuade you...

And yeah, I did correct your grammar because you wrote the exact opposite of what you meant. "Could care less" annoys me to no end (and I'm not even a native speaker...)



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Fusioncode said:
kowenicki said:


i was saying the same last gen.... thats the point.

of course I had wrong predictions... you?

What point? I'm struggling to see what effect subscription services are currently having on consoles. I mean the PS4 is the fastest selling console in history. I know that's hard for some peopler to hear. Yes gaming will eventually have a big shift and everything will change, but the fact that you're using it as an excuse to downplay the PS4's success in just baffling. When all consoles start doing terribly and everyone is using subscription services or whatever then you may have a point. But until then, PS4 is doing great. The shipment numbers are fantastic. There is absolutely no reason to downplay its sales unless you have an agenda. 

This. It's not like PS4 is only doing great relative to XB1 and WiiU...no, it's doing great compared to EVERY console ever released.



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kowenicki said:

It is.  Nintendo so low is obviously the main reason.

Next quarter will be interesting.


^ this. 



kowenicki said:

It is.  Nintendo so low is obviously the main reason.

Next quarter will be interesting.

More sales aprox. More shipments.

More sales -> Greater Popularity/Percieved Value (Avg.) -> More sales

thus More Shipments.

Nintendo is so low because they got dominated.  Trends tend to follow inertia.

Hence, 

Next year will not be interesting, just more of the same.



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