What is "saving" Nintendo is high margin first party game sales, regardless whether it is on 3DS or Wii U.

Install base dosn't mean nothing God of war 3 sell more then other god of war despite the huge difference in install base and Uncharted is a very leggy games so when ps4 hit 40 millions the game will still selling well weekly.

Uncharted serie is growing with evety release game i would not be surprised if Uncharted 4 will sell as well as Halo even if not it will still selling a lot over 5 millions

Look at all the businessmen in this thread. So many people understand the ins and outs of business here. I'm surprised the industry isn't swamped with dozens of successful console manufacturers, with how many people clearly know exactly why each business is succeeding as well as it is. They all ought to go start their own console making business, because they know so much about it. Competition is good, after all.

Try harder? Do you know me? I'm a huge playstation guy, but I'm also realistic.

Ok, so I was wrong about ps4 profit on hardware. My bad.
But why are you bringing up WiiU again? I said let's cancel out wiiU and vita because they're probably even in terms of profit.

Again, the question is "which will make more profit, 3ds or ps4". Now, for 3ds we have a brand new smash game (Smash sells in the area of 8m generally) and a new pokemon that everyone is saying looks like the best one ever made, with actual flying. 3DS, with the new console and 2 heavy hitter games is probably going to sell about 7m as well this holiday, if not more.
Check out this thread for sales infor http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=192353&page=1#

LBP2 sold 3m, LBP1 5m. Let's just say 4m for this one.
Now we have smash brothers http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=smash&publisher=&platform=&genre=&minSales=0&results=200
13m. That's going to be more than lbp and uc4 put together.

Then pokemon x/y which sold 11m http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=pokemon&publisher=&platform=&genre=&minSales=0&results=200
We're probably going to see at least another 10m with pokemon ora.

And now the new 3ds which is 18900 yen, same price as a bundled 3ds, and huge sales this past week in japan.

Yes, ps4 makes good money on third party, but can they outperform ~30m copies of just two games making 30$ profit margin each. That's almost a billion$ alone.

All you're saying is that there's a possibility. None of that is conrete. Yes, gow3 sold more than gow on a lower install base, but gow3 was also a significantly better game than gow. It's the same reason why lbp2 and uc3 didn't sell as much as the previous ones despite a bigger install base. The games simply weren't as good. Same for killzone. KZ2 was amazing, kz3 wasn't. The sales speak for themselves.

Yes, there is a possibility that uc4 can sell 10m, but just because other games and franchises have defied the trend, it doesn't mean that selling 10m is guaranteed. On top of which, let's not look at this from within a vacuum. This isn't about uc4. It's about what will profit more, sony or ninty.

It's called reasoning an debating over a topic. You should try it some time, makes people smarter.

Most game sold on Wii U are Nintendo games, that should make a big difference in terms of profit.

How do you know Uncharted 4 is worst then Uncharted 1 and 2 it's an opinion anyway not everybody think Uncharted 3 is worst then Uncharted 1 and 2.

And it look like it's been a long time since you didn't see Unchated 3 total sale cause Uncharted 3 already outsold Uncharted 2.

I never said uc4 is guarenteed to sell 10m but still possible ,you said Unchated 4 will sell 5 millions max in your previous post Uncharted 4 will definitly do that number it will sell 5 millionx min not max

What is the best selling first party Vita game and how much has it shipped/sold?

Even with the "Struggling Wii U" people so quickly forget 3D, Pokemon and Monster Hunter. This is why Nintendo will have a high profit this holiday. Sony has PS4, Nintendo has 3DS and a improving Wii U. Doesn't matter who sells more, as long as they all 3, including Xbone make some money.