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mornelithe said:
Imaginedvl said:
I have no idea what you are talking about... The thread is about PSN being hacked again... Not the PS4 and its popularity.


And my point was about the non-sense this guy posted about Windows XP being infected 10 seconds after a fresh installation while connected to any network. 


You should know what I'm talking about, you pointed out that Windows being the most popular OS, naturally leads to the most attempts at finding exploits.  Which is absolutely true, because the bulk of personal data would be stored therein.  The easy parallel is that the Ps4 is currently the market leader in next-gen, therefore will have more scrutiny :D

You do realize that Xbox Live / PSN are not exclusifs to PS4/Xbox One (aka next gen consoles), right?
And even if you do not realize that, which is fine. The thread is not about how much something got hacked based on popularity but just the fact the PSN got hacked again...  



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Imaginedvl said:

You do realize that Xbox Live / PSN are not exclusifs to PS4/Xbox One (aka next gen consoles), right?
And even if you do not realize that, which is fine. The thread is not about how much something got hacked based on popularity but just the fact the PSN got hacked again...  

Then why'd you bring it up? :D

PS.  I know it's coming, so yes, I did make a joke specifically to Tachi, about Windows exploits, however, as a Windows user it's something I have to deal with (constant updates) quite frequently.  So, it is kind of obnoxious.



Imaginedvl said:
mornelithe said:
Imaginedvl said:
I have no idea what you are talking about... The thread is about PSN being hacked again... Not the PS4 and its popularity.


And my point was about the non-sense this guy posted about Windows XP being infected 10 seconds after a fresh installation while connected to any network. 


You should know what I'm talking about, you pointed out that Windows being the most popular OS, naturally leads to the most attempts at finding exploits.  Which is absolutely true, because the bulk of personal data would be stored therein.  The easy parallel is that the Ps4 is currently the market leader in next-gen, therefore will have more scrutiny :D

You do realize that Xbox Live / PSN are not exclusifs to PS4/Xbox One (aka next gen consoles), right?
And even if you do not realize that, which is fine. The thread is not about how much something got hacked based on popularity but just the fact the PSN got hacked again...  

and you just ignored the point he just made to frame the argument the way this entire thread was meant to do. in a round about way..

"why you should really reconsider"

supporting sony and buy into Microsofts eco system because with their net work its aleast secure.

thats what the direction of social engineering is applied, not outside what many did with to social engineer people to buy the ps4 over the xboxone.

but to imply thats not what has been going on over sony net work to be shown in negative light while pointing out the benefits of microsofts xboxlive with the xboxone or all last generation with the xbox360 and xboxlive and ps3 and its psn being vulnerable to hacks.

its the same crap. but trying to imply its not is just amusing. atleast be upfront about it.



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mornelithe said:
Imaginedvl said:

You do realize that Xbox Live / PSN are not exclusifs to PS4/Xbox One (aka next gen consoles), right?
And even if you do not realize that, which is fine. The thread is not about how much something got hacked based on popularity but just the fact the PSN got hacked again...  

Then why'd you bring it up? :D

Seriously you should read posts instead of just jumping to specific sentence... You keep ignoring what I'm saying on purpose and quoting random statement.
My initial response who triggered your reply is quoting someone so read it again if you have any difficulties to put everything in  a proper context, I will not repost everything again :)

And yet again, you are failing to explain why, even if you believe popularity is the root cause, this thread should not exist? As the thread is just talking about a fact that is happening right now.



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joeorc said:

and you just ignored the point he just made to frame the argument the way this entire thread was meant to do. in a round about way..

"why you should really reconsider"

supporting sony and buy into Microsofts eco system because with their net work its aleast secure.

thats what the direction of social engineering is applied, not outside what many did with to social engineer people to buy the ps4 over the xboxone.

but to imply thats not what has been going on over sony net work to be shown in negative light while pointing out the benefits of microsofts xboxlive with the xboxone or all last generation with the xbox360 and xboxlive and ps3 and its psn being vulnerable to hacks.

its the same crap. but trying to imply its not is just amusing. atleast be upfront about it.

Stop here with your conspiration theories lol. The thread is not framed in anyway.

Basicaly this is the thread's topic: PSN got hacked again, let's talk about it. 

That's it. If some of you are frustrated about that and do not want to talk about it or downgrade it fine. Just ignore it.



Imaginedvl said:
mornelithe said:

Then why'd you bring it up? :D

Seriously you should read posts instead of just jumping to specific sentence... You keep ignoring what I'm saying on purpose and quoting random statement.
My initial response who triggered your reply is quoting someone so read it again if you have any difficulties to put everything in  a proper context, I will not repost everything again :)

And yet again, you are failing to explain why, even if you believe popularity is the root cause, this thread should not exist? As the thread is just talking about a fact that is happening right now.

I didn't say popularity was the root cause, you did, I merely used what you said and asked why this thread's ok?  PS4's more popular, that's just a fact.  You can create whatever goalposts you want (forgetting that the PS4's servers are separate from the PS3's), but those are the facts.  You also seem unable to read that this exploit is in fact resulting in zero personal information being released, but, that's ok.  Tachi and other's have already illustrated those points.



Will this cause my information to be stolen. My card information in jeopardy? Can't play my game?



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Imaginedvl said:
Tachikoma said:
mornelithe said:

Praise Microsoft....for making Windows and IE so filled with holes and exploits, that most people focus on that :D

Not directly related but a fun point non the less.

Windows XP is now so atrociously exploited that the combined number of compromised machines on the planet ensure that a windows XP machine on a fresh install will contract a virus or malware within 10 seconds of the network being connected, with no input or actions taken by the user to achieve this.

There's just that many malware/spyware/virus ridden machines constantly throwing out their junky tentacles in to the web that WinXP without a good firewall is like waving a bagel at a flock of hungry seaguls.

Dude... I know it is cool to say something like that but I hope you realize how wrong this is... Stop saying random non-sense stuffs like that to try to prove your point. Maybe you read something like that on a forum or somewhere else but it does not make it real. And I hope you do not really know computers, network and how a virus or malware spread and what weakness is used to "spread" to make that kind of comment. (and even if you read that on a random forum, at least provide source...)

Firstly, she's no dude.

Secondly, perhaps you weren't around in the days of windows XP's phase-out period, but there was this little bugger of a virus called Blaster, which has since spawned thousands of variants.

In 2008 (6 years ago now, nearly 7), the average "time to own" of a fresh install windows XP machine, with no action taken from the user was 4 minutes.
http://blog.chron.com/techblog/2008/07/average-time-to-infection-4-minutes/

"While the survival time measured varies quite a bit across methods used, pretty much all agree that placing an unpatched Windows computer directly onto the Internet in the hope that it downloads the patches faster than it gets exploited are odds that you wouldn't bet on in Vegas. "

These survival times vary from country to country, dependant upon factors such as number of people on the same ISP block running an infected windows XP machine, and on if the router you're using is running it's own firewall or not, but here's an interesting graph for you based on a fresh XP install connected to the internet, from moment of connection and moment of infection, this is for the period spanning he past year only.

And this is even with most ISP's over the past 5 years adding filtering rules specifically intended to stop these viruses and worms, and the average isp provided router including a firewall.

Fact of the matter is simply this, XP is a deathtrap unless you have all of the latest updates on a usb stick to apply, a good software firewall and a good hardware firewall.



Imaginedvl said:
mornelithe said:
Imaginedvl said:

You do realize that Xbox Live / PSN are not exclusifs to PS4/Xbox One (aka next gen consoles), right?
And even if you do not realize that, which is fine. The thread is not about how much something got hacked based on popularity but just the fact the PSN got hacked again...  

Then why'd you bring it up? :D

Seriously you should read posts instead of just jumping to specific sentence... You keep ignoring what I'm saying on purpose and quoting random statement.
My initial response who triggered your reply is quoting someone so read it again if you have any difficulties to put everything in  a proper context, I will not repost everything again :)

And yet again, you are failing to explain why, even if you believe popularity is the root cause, this thread should not exist? As the thread is just talking about a fact that is happening right now.

on the same token you just stated psn was hacked again? i mean was it hacked again?

So again this is the point about on this thread and the other about after the 2.0 update

if you look in both threads the fact of the matter its to steer people in the direction of Microsoft over Sony. just like this thread here, but trying to imply its not is quite Amusing to say the least, i mean atleast be honest about it.

the thread maker trying to pretend its "just to inform" the users is downright Amusing. 



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.