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am8733 on 29 October 2014

Looks like the XBO is gaining momentum ahead of this price drop as well, atleast in the US.



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Burek on 29 October 2014

I hope VGC charges a commercial rate for todd's posts.
Is there any way I can add todd2r to my AdBlock?



SweetTalia on 29 October 2014
Captain_Tom said:
Ka-pi96 said:
d21lewis said:
I agree with Captain_Tom. Think of it like this: Let's say you walk into Gamestop and you're looking for a new Mario game. It costs $59.99. It won't matter to you in the slightest if Call of Duty is suddenly $5 unless you're already interested in CoD. The only people who'll be swayed by the sale are people on the fence or people that wanted to buy an Xbox One, anyway.

The reason the Xbox 360 sold what it sold wasn't because of price (even though that did play a part in it). It sold because people educated themselves about what it had to offer and it became something that they wanted to own. What Microsoft has to do (and they've been doing this in my opinion) is make the Xbox One a device that people want to own. Offer a comparable experience to the PS4. Offer better games or at least offer games that can't be missed. THEN, people will buy it.

If the only factor was price, the Gamecube or the Wii U would have set the world on fire. iPhones sell for a crazy price because people like the brand. M$ has to restore people's faith in the Xbox brand.

I'd expect there is a lot of those people though. Particularly the ones that want an Xbox One anyway and are just waiting for more games or for it to be cheaper.


I guess I just have to disagree that there are a lot of people on the fence.  No offense to the fanboys, but whether some people like it or not the PS4 has demonstrated to consumers that it is the superior console in practically every way.  Anyone who still wants an X1 is only getting one because either a) It was there only option anyways (Fanboy), or b) it has a game they believe they must have now; and in either case $50 isn't gonna change much.

d21lewis is right in saying that the PS4 has become the "it" console that people have set their eyes on.  Xbox needs a new killer feature and a $300 price to even have a chance of clawing back some marketshare.

You honestly believe that? that's the only 2 reasons? O_o



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COKTOE on 29 October 2014

I have not been following Games With Gold at all, and assumed it was more or less on par with PS+. Is PS+ outclassing GWG as the article suggests? And for comparisons sake is it better only relative buy comparing system by system ( PS3 vs 360, PS4 vs XBO ) ,and excluding the Vita? I know how great plus is. I have PS3, Vita's and PS4. I keep abreast of what's going on overall, but again, know little of how GWG compares to Plus.



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vivster on 29 October 2014
todd2r said:

"The $50 price drop is big, but paired with the $100 discount from Microsoft stores, it puts the Xbox One into the coveted "impulse purchase range" that the original Wii used to have."  I disagree. It puts it in the range of affordability for millions of Xbox 360 owners that have yet to upgrade. This price drop has opened the floodgates for all gamers and we as gamers, are truly thankful. With the best holiday lineup and the best online service going today, the Xbox One is the only logical choice this holiday season. The season of Xbox is upon us. Thank you Microsoft and thank you Phil Spencer. Your vision for Xbox has every gamer excited for the future. Again, thank you Microsoft. We are humbled.

Amen brother. Halleluja!



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Captain_Tom on 29 October 2014
SweetTalia said:
Captain_Tom said:
I fail to see why $50 would make a difference to someone. If you want a PS4, $50 isn't going to make its better graphics, Network, and quantity/quality of games stop being worth it. And if you wanted an X1, that $50 wasn't stopping you from getting one considering the overall amount of the money spent in a generation is FAR more $350.

I don't think Sony will react much, if at all, and the the PS4 will still outsell the X1 2:1.

The chance of that happening is not  a as great as before..

Technically you are right - there is a lesser chance that PS4 will trounce the X1 this holiday.  But is a 90% chance really much different than a 95% chance?

The X1 has been bundled to death already and had dozens of unnofficial price drops all over the world.  People have spoken, and they just don't want it (Relatively speaking).  

Really it's like the Zune:  The Zune launched at the same price as the iPod with the same storage capacity.  However the iPod just did what it was menat to better: Play music.  The iPod was smaller, easier to navigate, and simpler to load up with songs and use.  Yeah the Zune had these other features but they really just distracted from its main purpose...Sound familiar?  Price drops, new features - it DOESN'T MATTER.  People bought the iPod and now by the PS4 to do what they bought them to do.  The market has spoken, and the winner was chosen.  End of story.



Captain_Tom on 29 October 2014
SweetTalia said:
Captain_Tom said:
Ka-pi96 said:
d21lewis said:
I agree with Captain_Tom. Think of it like this: Let's say you walk into Gamestop and you're looking for a new Mario game. It costs $59.99. It won't matter to you in the slightest if Call of Duty is suddenly $5 unless you're already interested in CoD. The only people who'll be swayed by the sale are people on the fence or people that wanted to buy an Xbox One, anyway.

The reason the Xbox 360 sold what it sold wasn't because of price (even though that did play a part in it). It sold because people educated themselves about what it had to offer and it became something that they wanted to own. What Microsoft has to do (and they've been doing this in my opinion) is make the Xbox One a device that people want to own. Offer a comparable experience to the PS4. Offer better games or at least offer games that can't be missed. THEN, people will buy it.

If the only factor was price, the Gamecube or the Wii U would have set the world on fire. iPhones sell for a crazy price because people like the brand. M$ has to restore people's faith in the Xbox brand.

I'd expect there is a lot of those people though. Particularly the ones that want an Xbox One anyway and are just waiting for more games or for it to be cheaper.


I guess I just have to disagree that there are a lot of people on the fence.  No offense to the fanboys, but whether some people like it or not the PS4 has demonstrated to consumers that it is the superior console in practically every way.  Anyone who still wants an X1 is only getting one because either a) It was there only option anyways (Fanboy), or b) it has a game they believe they must have now; and in either case $50 isn't gonna change much.

d21lewis is right in saying that the PS4 has become the "it" console that people have set their eyes on.  Xbox needs a new killer feature and a $300 price to even have a chance of clawing back some marketshare.

You honestly believe that? that's the only 2 reasons? O_o


I mean the only other reason is you feel you need to own every console.  So besides that, yes for the most part.  Of course this is a generalization and there are always small numbers of exceptions.



Captain_Tom on 29 October 2014
COKTOE said:
I have not been following Games With Gold at all, and assumed it was more or less on par with PS+. Is PS+ outclassing GWG as the article suggests? And for comparisons sake is it better only relative buy comparing system by system ( PS3 vs 360, PS4 vs XBO ) ,and excluding the Vita? I know how great plus is. I have PS3, Vita's and PS4. I keep abreast of what's going on overall, but again, know little of how GWG compares to Plus.

LOL yes PS+ has always destroyed the offerings of games with gold.  I mean I remember recently a lot of people were acting like it was a big deal that the 360 was just now getting Dark Souls while PS+ got that game many months earlier and was getting games that were less than a year old instead.



Burek on 29 October 2014
COKTOE said:
I have not been following Games With Gold at all, and assumed it was more or less on par with PS+. Is PS+ outclassing GWG as the article suggests? And for comparisons sake is it better only relative buy comparing system by system ( PS3 vs 360, PS4 vs XBO ) ,and excluding the Vita? I know how great plus is. I have PS3, Vita's and PS4. I keep abreast of what's going on overall, but again, know little of how GWG compares to Plus.


PS+ gives one brand new, unreleased game each month, and adds an additional game . I believe XOne only offers older, already released games...



OttoniBastos on 29 October 2014

It seems that Xone is outselling PS4 in the last two days at amazon.The question is..is this momentary boost thanks to the price cut announcement or will be like this during the holiday?