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Will WiiU Beat Gamecube?

No 112 45.90%
 
Yes 132 54.10%
 
Total:244

Had some fn with my GC, particularly with the lord of the rings games. Having a huge pile of fun with the Wii U, more than with my PSX. I see Nintendo venturing into a new era in the second half of the Wii U's life. Making games that we never thought they would in all different genre's to extend the console.

 

The New 3DS is designed to work in conjunction with the Wii U in ways that are yet to be unveiled. The GC had a very short life. The Wii U won't peak and reach maturity for quite some time. At that point we will see things change.



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Something to keep in mind: Super Smash Bros Melee released not long after the release of the Gamecube. Melee ended up selling to about a third of all Gamecube owners, 7 million. Brawl sold over 12 million copies. And I don't know a single person who pays attention to gaming, has seen what Smash U is offering, and hasn't been interested.

In short, don't rule the Wii U out just yet.



Namiirei said:
Seece said:
Namiirei said:
Seece said:

WiiU shipped 610k this Q, in the same comparable Q Gamecube shipped 810k. This means the gap increased 200k in Gamecubes favour.

As of this Q it's 7.29m WiiU's shipped vs 10.45m Gamecubes.


Totally wrong.

It's in french, if you don't understand it : wiiU was 2.87 M behind Gc before, now it's 2.34.

No. Look above, I said that chart was confusing, GC launched a Q early in Japan, so you need to compare the last dot for GC with the WiiU one.

Gamecube launched in EU/NA Nov 2001, WIiU launched Nov 2012. End of September of their second full year the stats show 7.29m Vs. 10.45m Gamecube.

Really wish people would stop trying to correct me when I'm not wrong.

Oh well, i will just post this here :

http://www.gamekult.com/actu/et-pourtant-nintendo-gagne-de-largent-A139985.html

 

Sorry if i prefer to trust one of the biggest french gaming site than you.


Sorry but there, Seece is right and you are wrong. I already made a comment on gamekult to explain it but i'll do there again for you.
The GC launched in Sept. 2001 in Japan, Nov. 2001 in US, and May 2002 EVERYWHERE ELSE.
The Chart made by OscarL is false because it starts by counting the September month of the gamecube (only 2weeks in japan). Against a worldwide release of Wii U in November.
He should have started the gamecube chart 1 quarter later, so gamecube had a 2months advantage for japan, BUT still 6 MONTHS of disadvantage for the whole world except US/Japan.

His chart just shows Wii/WiiU with 2 Months headstart against GC in US and 9 Months headstart EVERYWHERE else. It's just not right & fair.


So the gap between GC and WiiU is 3.16m, up 200k from last quarter as Seece said.



Prediction: End of 2015 Hardware sales (as of January 20, 2015)

Wii U: 12.1M | XBO: 19.8M | PS4: 36.0M | 3DS: 58.5M | PSV: 11.7M

Aielyn said:
Something to keep in mind: Super Smash Bros Melee released not long after the release of the Gamecube. Melee ended up selling to about a third of all Gamecube owners, 7 million. Brawl sold over 12 million copies. And I don't know a single person who pays attention to gaming, has seen what Smash U is offering, and hasn't been interested.

In short, don't rule the Wii U out just yet.

 

True but Gamecube didn't have Mario Kart yet, Double Dash released in the third holiday. That's why Gamecube shipped over 3 million that holiday. So the gap is only getting bigger the rest of the year.



Aielyn said:
Something to keep in mind: Super Smash Bros Melee released not long after the release of the Gamecube. Melee ended up selling to about a third of all Gamecube owners, 7 million. Brawl sold over 12 million copies. And I don't know a single person who pays attention to gaming, has seen what Smash U is offering, and hasn't been interested.

In short, don't rule the Wii U out just yet.


This is exactly what everyone was saying before and right after Mario Kart though (and countless other titles and moves, like the price cut and different bundles). When exactly can anyone "rule the Wii U out" and what does that entail anyway? Everyone has different definitions, I'm sure.

Edit; indeed, this notion has been put forward before.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6540202

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6545342



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Seece said:
Bofferbrauer said:
Seece said:
Namiirei said:

Oh well, i will just post this here :

http://www.gamekult.com/actu/et-pourtant-nintendo-gagne-de-largent-A139985.html

 

Sorry if i prefer to trust one of the biggest french gaming site than you.

lol you're trusting a french gaming website over official Nintendo figures.

If that's what you wanna do feel free. I'll use the facts tho.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2003/031113e.pdf

Here you go. Final slide.

Seece, the actual Numbers are the same than yours. What changes is the launch alignement. You are comparing Q9 GC with Q8 Wii U (like ryuzaki57's chart does, hence the additional quartal for the Gamecube on that one), while Gamekult compares Q8 GC with Q8 Wii U. As you can see on the chart, the gap narrows during Q8 due to this alignement.

Yes because Gamecube launched in Japan a few months earlier, that's not an excuse to push back WW Q's to make WiiU look better. At best for a more accurate picture Japan should be analsyed on its own. But NA/EU/Others is the same amount of time.

Just wanted to point the sole difference in the argument of both of you out. Not saying any of them was more correct than the other

Btw, why using Q2 as starting point for the GC? Because it's when it started in the US? Why not use Q4 then, as the GC only launched in Pal territories during May 2002 and only then had real global sales? 



WiiU only just started tracking ahead of DC



Wii U 300$
Gamecube 150$



Seece said:
tak13 said:
ok gc outships wii u i know the numbers,however how much is the gas in sales?Glad you expect 3m shipments...for holidays!thats the minimum i think,can see it 4m because nintendo doubles shipments,and big N expects smash bros to be equal to mk8...also there are other games and amiibos!gc had two consecutive big price cuts 50$ and 50$ down in its firsttwo years,wii u doesn t.i want a comment forthis, seece:p


Won't be 4m, it's not longer up 100% yoy.

Also, Q2 shipments were up over 200% yoy, Q3 is up 100%. It's dropping.

50% increase in sales WW is realistic. So US 600k to 900k ect.

Agreed. I'm hoping for a 3 million quarter, because the drop off in January could be quite large. Wii U's baseline sales rate has improved but it still worse than any other system Nintendo have had on the market. The horrific sales for much of 2013 are the reason shipments rose by such high percentages this financial year.

Unless Wii U somehow bucks all historical trends for recent Nintendo consoles, then I just don't see it happening. The next twelve months should be the biggest clue. If Nintendo can again acheive good yoy growth, say 50% again, then maybe, just maybe, they can push Wii U into a nice sales curve. But like I said, I don't see that happening. Likely it'll be around 15 to 17 million lifetime.



Nettles said:
WiiU only just started tracking ahead of DC


Are you sure? Dreamcast was only produced for about 18 months and it ended up just over 10 million total. Maybe NPD only?