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Forums - Sales Discussion - WiiU Vs. XB1: Do you still think WiiU will win, if so why?

 

WiiU V.s XB1

WiiU will win 421 49.36%
 
XB1 will win 432 50.64%
 
Total:853
HBninjaX said:

Sony and Microsoft are going after the exact same audience, and Sony is the clear winner. Nintendo is doing its own thing and offers a completely different experience. Plus Microsoft made tons of missteps with their arrogant "Deal with it" attitude towards their customers, weak specs, higher price, etc.


The big difference is XB quickly began to make adjustments/changes to overcome their mistakes just as Playstation did last gen, but Nintendo did little to nothing for nearly a year and still have not done much to make meaningful corrections-  

Nintendo still needs to make its current and future Wii u owners happy but they also need to use the rest of the Wii u s life to figure out and plan for the next Nintnedo console launch -   As it stands. Ow it is going to be very difficult to get early buy in on their next console which is obviously critical in this age of games consoles 



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Ka-pi96 said:
Dunban67 said:
HBninjaX said:

Sony and Microsoft are going after the exact same audience, and Sony is the clear winner. Nintendo is doing its own thing and offers a completely different experience. Plus Microsoft made tons of missteps with their arrogant "Deal with it" attitude towards their customers, weak specs, higher price, etc.


The big difference is XB quickly began to make adjustments/changes to overcome their mistakes just as Playstation did last gen, but Nintendo did little to nothing for nearly a year and still have not done much to make meaningful corrections-  

Nintendo still needs to make its current and future Wii u owners happy but they also need to use the rest of the Wii u s life to figure out and plan for the next Nintnedo console launch -   As it stands. Ow it is going to be very difficult to get early buy in on their next console which is obviously critical in this age of games consoles 

Yeah I think Nintendo are the arrogant ones really not Microsoft. It took them a while but Microsoft admitted their mistakes and are doing their best to correct them. I doubt Nintendo even think they've made any mistakes with the Wii U. The sooner they realise that the better, then they can get back to making top quality consoles and properly competing with Sony and Microsoft again.

Nintendo's really not good at making in-generation adjustments, but even if they could, they made so many mistakes with the basic design of the Wii U that they're fairly crippled with it now. The "Wii" brand in general is dead, Nintendo shouldn't have made the console as is to begin with. 



This is one of the greatest enigmas in videogaming. How can so many people still belive the WiiU will sell more??

XOne sold far better (per month) so far and WiiU has already its biggest cards played. This is so simple and so revealing... Am I missing something here? What is the thunderbolt that will raze XOne or drastically enhance WiiU and that I'm not seeing coming?



Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 70M      WiiU: 25M

Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 18M

Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 90M      XOne: 40M      WiiU: 15M      Switch: 20M

Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 110M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 14M      Switch: 65M

wii u still.be ahead 2014 but xbox will overtake next year



Zod95 said:
This is one of the greatest enigmas in videogaming. How can so many people still belive the WiiU will sell more??

XOne sold far better (per month) so far and WiiU has already its biggest cards played. This is so simple and so revealing... Am I missing something here? What is the thunderbolt that will raze XOne or drastically enhance WiiU and that I'm not seeing coming?


Nintendo fans are stubborn (like the company). By the time the Smash bump wears off (around Feburary of next year) even the most die hard fanboys will accept the truth that the Wii U is a giant dud. 



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I dont know why you care much about shipments
those mean nothing (unless those sold out very quick)
but it is more important the Demand and the next gen graphics, budgets, cod an ac, people are on the ps4 train

wiiu will be second because smash and amiibo will disrupt the fkin market again
and 2015 looking better (about games) for wii u (zelda dont need to add more)
well i believe you want xone to be second the reality is that thats not going to happen and microsoft will close that division once and for all.



Zod95 said:
This is one of the greatest enigmas in videogaming. How can so many people still belive the WiiU will sell more??

XOne sold far better (per month) so far and WiiU has already its biggest cards played. This is so simple and so revealing... Am I missing something here? What is the thunderbolt that will raze XOne or drastically enhance WiiU and that I'm not seeing coming?


Lol I also estimate those same numbers! LOL



WhiteEaglePL said:

Wii U can win. It's not impossible.

Simply requires a TON of change from Nintendo. That is :

embrace hype Done already

online That's rocket-science for a traditional gaming company such as Nintendo

follow trends a bit more Too expensive, since trends are detailed graphics, open-worlds, content editors, deep controls, etc.

More megatons Will do nothing for the sales

Quicker game development Too expensive, since dev teams would have to be larger

BE AGGRESSIVE. Not slightly passive aggressive.... Passive keeps more the profits. It's a matter of mentality, they won't change that.



Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 70M      WiiU: 25M

Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 18M

Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 90M      XOne: 40M      WiiU: 15M      Switch: 20M

Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 110M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 14M      Switch: 65M

Zod95 said:
This is one of the greatest enigmas in videogaming. How can so many people still belive the WiiU will sell more??

XOne sold far better (per month) so far and WiiU has already its biggest cards played. This is so simple and so revealing... Am I missing something here? What is the thunderbolt that will raze XOne or drastically enhance WiiU and that I'm not seeing coming?


When this same discussion was happening in the summer far more ''Nintendo will come second'' people were being vocal, they've seemingly gone quite but are still voting in the polls. Their argument at the time were:

-3rd party won't help X1, or that the games will mostly help PS4. I said over an over again, even if a game gives PS4 a 600% boost and the Xbox just a 20% boost, that 20% will take the X1 far beyond the Wii U (at the time they were neck and necK)

- MarioKart 8 momentum is infinite and so will Smash Bros. Visibly not the case from pretty early on. Even when Wii U was riding on the boost, sales were falling steadily week by week with Hyrule Warriors, Beyonetta nothing to remedy it til smash. 
 
-Nintendo Exclusive = System Seller. People would throw up Hyrule Warriors, Beyonetta, Captain toad in sales discussions as if COD alone wouldn't give X1 a hardware boost big enough make all those exclusives irrelevant. Similar situation next year, a lot of exclusives for Nintendo but no real system sellers bar Zelda and possibly X. In reality Witcher 3 will probably sell more xbox's then Yoshi or Mario Maker will sell Wii U's and its just one of many big 2015 Next Gen Only titles that looks like an actually SYSTEM SELLERSand not just quality software there to satisfy the existing userbase ala 99% of Wii U's library. 

The fact that none of them care to support their vote is just evidence of them knowing that they're living in denial of whats really happening.



wolflink said:
I dont know why you care much about shipments
those mean nothing (unless those sold out very quick)
but it is more important the Demand and the next gen graphics, budgets, cod an ac, people are on the ps4 train

wiiu will be second because smash and amiibo will disrupt the fkin market again
and 2015 looking better (about games) for wii u (zelda dont need to add more)
well i believe you want xone to be second the reality is that thats not going to happen and microsoft will close that division once and for all.

Yeah? Why has XB1 shipped 7.5m units then? (I use shipped there just to annoy you they're not useless either ... my word.

Smash disrupt the market? How? LOL

XB1 will be second long before 2015 (officially already is 2nd). And sorry to burst your bubble but Xbox aint going anywhere :)

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6645073

You also predicted WiiU > XB1 in September, how did that turn out?