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Forums - Sales Discussion - WW hardware + US software 18th October 2014

iStrikeFirst said:
prinz_valium said:


historical data:

every console with a big (bigger as usual) september bump had a drop in october (ps3 slim version release as example. or the halo 3 relase for x360 in september)

ps4 biggest sellers were in september. destiny and fifa 15

ps4 games for october are none beside some midclass multiplats

 

 

so based on what should we NOT expect a drop?

only reason would be pre holiday increase. but why would u buy a ps4 right now and not just wait for 3th november and pick it up with the new call of duty, or 18th and pick up gta, far cry, lbp or ac?

there are no deals right now (at least in the us. in europe, there a deals every week for both consoles)

 

 

this is not hopes and whishes.

Let me take a page out of your book and give you an answer with no info to back it up (not really). The ps4 is a monster "with no gamezz" and will continue to sell regardless whether you like it or not and whether you hope or wish it doesn't. 


totally possible.

the ps4 already suprised me with the 10m announcement in august and 538k september.

 

but right now i think it will slow down in october and is possibly overtracked for this timeframe.

that doenst mean i could not be wrong.

 

 

but if u say my estimates are just based on nothing or only hopes and whishes, thats wrong and maybe just a personal attack



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prinz_valium said:
iStrikeFirst said:

I always see you on sales charts saying ps4 numbers are probably overtracked with no info to backit up. You are always downplaying ps4 numbers, and your agenda is clear. You are always wrong when it comes to ps4 numbers but yet continue to downplay ps4 sales.


at least i am right, when it comes to xbox numbers;)

btw the ps4 is overtracked (at least in the us)

npd numbers as of 4th october: 4488k

vgc numbers: 4582,5k

~95k units overtracked.

 

and i dont downplay ps4 numbers. i still think 1.5m is fine for september. i just think there is (and will be) a decent october drop on a weekly base

we should take vgc numbers always with a grain of salt. yes the last two weeks are probably overtracked...

PS4 was overtracked in the US when Sony announced 10m and VGC were ~700k off globally. The slight overtracking in the US is clearly irrelevant since it's being undertracked consistently in the rest of the world.



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prinz_valium said:
Ninsect said:

You love being right but keep making wrong predictions. 13-14m was way off and so will 15-17m. I mean, 15m!?!? Sales would need to crash for that to happen

u didnt get the joke?

Obviously not, since historically you've been really conservative like that. What was the joke?



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Great PS4 numbers. / repeat



I cant imagine PS4 number in décember, now we know the sales will be good in Japan for the month



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

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SweetTalia said:

ps4, 3ds, x1. impressive numbers... wii u struggling


As bad as the Wii u hardware is on avg wk to wk thier software numbers have been even worse - that has to be hurting Nintendo even worse than the poor hardware sales because even if they sell more hardware, Wii U owners are just not buying much software at all



I want to know how much Playstation TV launch is bad



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

Aerys said:
I cant imagine PS4 number in décember, now we know the sales will be good in Japan for the month

The DQ special edition you mean?



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Ninsect said:
Aerys said:
I cant imagine PS4 number in décember, now we know the sales will be good in Japan for the month

The DQ special edition you mean?


Yes. And  even the games coming soon could be system seller before their launch.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Aerys said:
Ninsect said:
Aerys said:
I cant imagine PS4 number in décember, now we know the sales will be good in Japan for the month

The DQ special edition you mean?


Yes. And  even the games coming soon could be system seller before their launch.

Japan gets GTA V bundle in December as well...