Well you see Nintendo has Smash and next year is not disappointing so I'd kiss your sorry XBOners goodbye because Wii U's staying ahead (at least until the next Nintendo console releases and Nintendo ignores Wii U)

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A shipped figure only tells investors what retailers are ordering, it doesn't tell them what is actually selling, it's an inaccurate estimate, which retailers are guessing at. A retailer can easily over or under estimate how much of a product they'll need to stock, an example of that would be when a new game (new IP) is released or if you're launching in a new market that hasn't been tapped before in regards to that specific product.

XB1 being launched in china and other tier 2 markets is a prime example of a period when over stuffing would happen, because no one knows exactly how well it was going to sell. These recent Microsoft shipment details are the result of that, so overestimating is very likely.

Again I'm not talking about using forums for estimated sales, in order for investors to make their decisions.

No matter what way you slice it shipments aren't sales, they're supply and not demand data.

FYI Sony gives far more regular, actual sales data than Microsoft and Nintendo. Just because Sony and Microsoft are bigger companies that doesn't mean they don't need to give as detailed information as another company for their gaming business, it's still a part of the company and investors need to know the slightest increase or decrease in business so they can keep track of where the company is shrinking or growing.

Accurate sales will always be more preferable as it's what's actually happening in the marketplace, how much actual product is selling through to customers and what customers are really interested in buying.

since when is Xone undertracked? They released their console on new countries of course there is more stock on shelves than before.

If my prediction is correct about the Wii U only being at 7.2 million shipped as of September 31, then yeah, the One outshipped the Wii U.

Depends how much Nintendo shipped.

Less than 800k = possible yes
More than 1 million = possible no

Between = it will be hard to say

Wii U isn't getting passed 800k shipped last quater. 

Less than 800k I will assume the Xbone outshipped it.

But VGC shows ~700k sold... even if it is overtracked with these sales I will assume it shipped more than 800k... to be fair I'm expecting something close to 1 million.

Good point. If that's standard procedure for Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo then it's not a sign of anything. Tbh, I have no idea if this is how they all usually report it.

Sony reason to do that was obvious and everybody agreeded... hide terrible Vita shipmente below PSP.

Arent those sales still based off over tracking in Q2

Wii U shipped 510k in Q2 with MK8. At most, Q3 will be 600k.