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cAPSLOCK on 03 March 2010
d21lewis said:
cAPSLOCK said:
NYANKS said:
cAPSLOCK said:
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Joke thread? There is no "kart racing" genre. There's Mario Kart and then there's ripoffs of Mario Kart.

Was CTR a good game? Yup. But it could be better than the best Mario Kart game and it will still never be anything more than a ripoff. A Fauxlex watch, a Soni tv, Levy jeans, Nicke shoes, a Polystation, a Vii. Just the Sonic and Sega All Star Racing of 2 generations ago.

Hey man, theres no shame in progress. Yes Nintendo might have made the first kart game ever (not even sure that's true), but for that brief moment Sony made it better. P.S. I love how this thread refuses to die. Awesome.

Progress would be making your own game, not ripping off someone else's ideas.  We're not talking about a genre like FPS or RTS. We're not even talking about a subgenre, we're talking about a specific game that is popular enough to warrant 3-4 ripoff games a generation.

What the heck, man?  Would you want to live in a world where Tetris is the only puzzle game, SSX was the only snowboarding game, and Mario was the only platforming game?  Just because Mario Kart did "Kart Racing" good, that doesn't mean that nobody else should take a stab at the genre (and it IS a genre).  Heck, some people who owned a PS1 didn't own an N64.  Would you deny them some Kart Racing goodness?

 

Oh, and progress is taking an existing idea and making it better.  That's what CTR did.  It's better than Mario Kart 64.

I would never deny someone some kart racing goodness.

However, you're bringing up puzzles and snowboarding and platforming, which leaves a lot of room open to interpretation and direction. Mario Kart is a game in the racing genre, it being the Mario interpretation of racing (power up items and weapons as something of a direct lineage from Mario games).

Interpretation is the key word here. Platforming is a very broad genre comprised from jumping from point A to point B, that's its most basic component and you can stack any number of things onto that plate. The same applies to snowboarding in that there's a lot of things you can do with since it's basically nothing but a sport.  Puzzle games have been around for thousands of years and the different takes on them are immense and insane.

What is the "kart racing" genre? What's open to interpretation? Looking back on Kart racing games I see Mario Kart and I see a lot of imposters. I've seen nothing added or mutated--just exact copies of Mario Kart with different characters and track themes.

Not sayin CTR is bad and I certainly wouldn't deny someone the chance to play it; it's just that when the dust settles there's Mario Kart and a long list of copycats.



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quarashi on 03 March 2010

So much CTR love is scary to me.

I will say that I will always like the original MK over MK 64, MK 64 was the superior version. When I was in Japan, one of class mates bought a N64 and a Japanese version of MK64. I would totally dominate everyone in my dorm, I would have to play down with my friends so they would play with me. I hate having to do that but it was worth it so that people would actually play with me. Oh the good times MK64 has provided for me.
Plus Toad has the coolest name in Japanese ever, Kinopio, it wasn't just some katakana'd version of Toad.

I played CTR a few times back in the day, only because maybe 2 of my friends owned a PS1 over a 64, so I would say MK64 for me.



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selnor on 03 March 2010

Is this serious or a joke. CTR was a pretty good mimic, but Mario Kart had better implementation of strategy and racing. Also you can never beat a red shell. The best items by a country mile.



Games4Fun on 03 March 2010

Mario Kart



roccerfeller on 03 March 2010

no contest. Mario Kart 64.

Even the shitty mario kart games were always the best in their genre.



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shizzlee on 03 March 2010

Diddy Kong Racing for top tier.  Sonic and Sega All Star Racing for high tier.  These two are under those XD



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d21lewis on 04 March 2010
selnor said:
Is this serious or a joke. CTR was a pretty good mimic, but Mario Kart had better implementation of strategy and racing. Also you can never beat a red shell. The best items by a country mile.

WHAT!?!  Mario Kart 64 was dumbed down so badly!!  The tracks were so wide that 8 cars could drive side by side!!  Anybody who tried to learn the fundamentals and break records in the time trials would lose to inferior racers because the losers always got game changing weapons (lightning, blue shell).  CTR rewarded strategy and skill!!  It was an actual racing game. 



SuperAnthony64 on 04 March 2010

Mario Kart 64



NYANKS on 04 March 2010

Look at the reviews throughout the thread. The reviewers picked CTR. And so did d21Lewis. Thread over. :)



d21lewis on 04 March 2010

This thread has gone on for two years. It'll go on for two-hundred, if I have anything to say about it!! Until every person who's sided with Mario Kart (which is and awesome franchise --and Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart DD, and Mario Kart Wii are the BEST Kart racers on the market, still) admits that Crash Team Racing was better than Mario Kart 64 in the 32-bit/64-bit era.*

I will never give up the fight!!







*This includes the members who have been banned AND the member who may or may not have died.