Its safe to assume a 24m install base ending 2016, and that follows from assuming 2016>=2015>2014-launch. Moreover, suppose we are looking at a shorter gen then sales won't peak higher or much higher from that. Perhaps 40m LT seems like a good upper bound.

As far as if those are good sales, it depends on how it overall turns out for M$ and all other software companies involved in the long run. If M$ sees significant profits from XOne hardware and software, same for third party software, then it's strong to reject the idea it sold poorly. The GameCube may have sold little but Nintendo didn't suffer from it. Finally, total sales of a console can affect the brand, and this in turn may affect the next generation either positively or negatively.

It's doing bad. Better than some others, but still bad.

But all those third party games have better versions readily available... and this may partially go away if the sales ratio between the PS4/XB1 does not improve, EA/Activision/Ubisoft/Capcom/Square will not want to saturate the market on a console with a much smaller user base... or they may delay the ports to reduce team sizes/cost (no that parity close will not hold much weight if they don't get more traction, especially outside the US).

I really like how you argue, you should run a gaming news site!

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2,4mi 360+One shipped...

Worst case scenario it shipped twice more than the 360 first Jul-Sep quarter.

Yeap, its not doing well...

But the PS3 had an awful first year. Selling almost as much as PS3 isn't a good thing for the start of the generation.

That's some good godwin point there !

Well ign has become your go to destination for clickbait articles alongside n4g. The article titles really overpromises the content inside where it for the majority really only comes down to speculation with nothing to back it up except looking at what has happened before or just listing obvious things. Simple things like making an article like why you should be excited for X product just summarises what has been shown or said before. It is fine to get people up to speed but telling us to be something we arent already requires that you either has something new to tell or that you clarify that the article is for unaware consumers only. Also. It might just be me but i dont think that every time a product gets a release date it validates a 'here is when you will be able to play x game' article. It seems like laziness and a poor attempt to create news when none are there. I think it boils down to that ign is really just a site that takes stuff from other guys and doesnt really get the first publishing on anything except their new 'first' initiative once a month which they so obviously payed for exclusivity publishing rights. I wouldnt be surprised if their editors just sat on n4g and refreshed untill something comes up. Even then they are still excrusiatingly slow to get things pasted. Also what is with them treating some of their employees as celebrities. Every time its greg miller making a surly face because people know he is so edgy and fun fun. Otherwise its naomi kyle reciting whatever happened during the day for the ADD crowd who cant keep attention going for 2 minutes without some blonde eye fucking you.