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burninmylight said:
Because you're on the Internet. Everything is mired in cynicism and negativity on the Internet.

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*Sound Of Rain said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

1) Sure, the game itself may still be fun and the graphics still may look great but it still doesnt look as great as what you set our expectations to 

2) its their fault for not providing us with enough information to show us how the game really is...

 

1) Who exactly set the expectations so high? You can't blame the developers / publishers for marketing the game. That's their job, to get people to want their product. Just because you (not literally you) had super high expectations, doesn't mean you can blame the people who made it.

2) or it's the consumers fault for not researching the game before buying (or preordering) it. The Wiki page shows exactly what to expect from gameplay to story...if you didn't look it up, that's on you. They did provide the information, you just failed to look at it.

*Again, when I say you, I don't mean literally  

1) Well, the example I used was Watch_Dogs cause if u looked at like the e3 2012 (I believe) trailer vs the end game, that e3 2012 trailer looked amazing compared to the end product. And then you have Titanfall and Destiny hiding behind their "zomfg e3 awards." Its things like that which set people's expectations very high! Granted its their job to get people to want their product but its also their job to make sure that the consumer doesn't get the wrong idea

2) Well, consumer is at fault to a certain degree but again, consumers shouldnt have to do the research if the product was on par with the consumer's expectations. Look at the Nintendo games for example, there has been many Nintendo games that came out this year with various scores. You have games like MK8 that were in the 80s and Hyrule Warriors that was in the 70s but the people that bought them didn't really complain and thats cause Nintendo showed exactly what to expect without the consumers having to do research on their own...



                  

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There are a lot of people on the internet who let the internet decide their opinions for them. Part of that is this ridiculous "over hyped" thing, the other is Metacritic.

Personally, I don't give a rat's fuzzy, flea-ridden posterior about "hype" or some list that averages highly subjective review scores. Maybe it's because I'm from a generation where all we had to go by was box covers and word of mouth from friends. I'm really not sure, but the fact that so many other people are puppets to hype and Metacritic alternates between amusing and annoying.

Let's take Destiny, for example. A lot of people are complaining that it was "over hyped" and that's why they don't like it or they go on and on about how it's not good because it got a lower Meta-score. See, none of that crap ever moved me from the start. I knew exactly what kind of game it was even before the beta. People talking about how they were fooled by the hype, they were just fooled by THEMSELVES, they just want something to blame it on because they didn't do their homework. I think it looks pretty good but I didn't want to get sucked into another loot-grinding game after I got out of WoW, so I skipped it. I still might get it one day but it will be with my eyes totally open. I know what I would be getting into and I'm not going to whine because I thought it was something else.

As far as Metacritic goes, talking about that as if it were something meaningful (other than for sales) is a good way to lose my attention. It exists for the sake of sheep (though I do use Metacritic as a handy way to access the reviews themselves).



I will tell you something. The negativity and cynicism does not come from people who have played the game. As a small sample just look for threads created for those games here in vgchartz. The thread creators have not played the game and the people who replied to the thread have not played them either. The people who have played the games defend them with arguments based on their own experience and of their friends. The people who bash them say I have read other people say the game sucks. And thus an endless chain is formed of negativity and cynicism. I am not saying the hate comes exclusivily from this, but a huge chunk does come from this. Plus we are in gaming forums where people hate on a game if it is not on their system, and when the game does not score high they get happy that the game does not score well leading to negativity. Always remember that people on gaming forums are a VERY small portion of the total gaming userbase.



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

1) Well, the example I used was Watch_Dogs cause if u looked at like the e3 2012 (I believe) trailer vs the end game, that e3 2012 trailer looked amazing compared to the end product. And then you have Titanfall and Destiny hiding behind their "zomfg e3 awards." Its things like that which set people's expectations very high! Granted its their job to get people to want their product but its also their job to make sure that the consumer doesn't get the wrong idea

2) Well, consumer is at fault to a certain degree but again, consumers shouldnt have to do the research if the product was on par with the consumer's expectations. Look at the Nintendo games for example, there has been many Nintendo games that came out this year with various scores. You have games like MK8 that were in the 80s and Hyrule Warriors that was in the 70s but the people that bought them didn't really complain and thats cause Nintendo showed exactly what to expect without the consumers having to do research on their own...

1) I remember the threads for Watch Dogs. You could see that the game looked worse before the game released. If you still bought it even after the new trailers, aren't you to blame if you end up disappointed? If you were the owner of a business and your product got a ton of awards, wouldn't you flaunt it? Sounds like it was the E3 gaming press that hyped it up to me. 

2) That just sounds lazy. People tend to shift the blame onto someone else when things go wrong. It's your hard earned money, why would anybody drop $60 on something without researching it? Sounds like a "consumer being lazy" problem rather than a "business deceived me" problem.

As far as the Nintendo games go, it sounds like people simply didn't over-hype them. A ton of people were disappointed with Skyward Sword though. Why? Because people had too high of expectations. Back then, it wasn't Nintendo's fault, just as today it isn't Ubisoft / Activisions fault.

I respect your opinion (as always Jizz) but I definitely disagree on this one



JWeinCom said:
Welcome to the internet. You must be new here...

Exactly.

This problem isn't exclusive to gamers sadly!



the "internet gaming community". Key word here being "internet".

It actually all feeds into what I would call "internet culture". Its a sensationalist culture. one that feels everything has to be exaggerated to have an impact. Little things are made big and big things are made epic.

This is why doom or bad topics are more popular on the internet. Its also why people feel the need to be abusive or insulting to others. Its not about being anonymous, its just all an inherent need to be noticed or acknowledged.



if there wasn't we might go crazy



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