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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan Sales October 13-19 2014

tbone51 said:


It'll be close many of us thought it be very high at years end and a great YoY for 2014 (the first 9 months were really great this year).

I got a thread here for that "Vita Japan YoY HW Status: [Week 42] 947k vs 799k. (*147k Difference)" http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=191035&page=1

FFX was released Week 50 or 51 i think (end of Dec). 


Just checked, it was on the last week. And it may sound like a joke but between week 47 until the end of the year PSV-TV sold 76k units, that bump will be missed this year.

I don't know how big will be PSN, but I reckon that PSV won't be up YoY.



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bubblegamer said:
uran10 said:
bubblegamer said:
uran10 said:

The Wii U sales plummeted because of the wii U mario kart 8 bundles being announced and the ps4 fanboys go wild -_-. You guys have 3 more wednesdays to celebrate being ahead because after that, the Wii U has Japan home consoles locked down for the rest of the year. MK8 bundle + Captain toad leading up to smash among other titles. This is going to be a good holiday for wii U in Japan.

Why can't you discuss in a civil manner? What do you achieve by calling people fanboys? Wasn't enough that you agreed with the guy that got moderated?

Me? I don't achieve anything... I just generally dislike the amount of crap the Wii U and nintendo gets dumped on them by sony fans so it temps it quite a lot to "explode"

Oh i see. Interesting! And you never see the other side do that? Or do you just don't mind it then?


I see it far more from sony fans than nintendo fans. It annoys me to no end.



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uran10 said:

I see it far more from sony fans than nintendo fans. It annoys me to no end.

It's called selective perception and it's very clear that you're annoyed. I advice you to handle it somewhere else instead of venting yourself on us. That's not what we're here for.



Kresnik said:

Because it's sales discussion.  

Vita is (probably) going to be up YoY but it's still a dire situation to be in, and while I enjoy discussing the positives for the platform, there's going to be plenty of people who are going to want to discuss the negatives too.

Just like for WiiU.  Just like for PS4.  And just like for 3DS.


Looking at the YoY is probably the wrong way to go about this analysis. Yes, the Vita will end up YoY but its going to end it with abysmal end-of-year momentum that will hurt it badly in the early 2015 year and beyond. Momentum loss is so much worse than YoY changes (unless they are drastic). The cannabilizing of sales by the 3DS is painful to witness.

Likewise, the 3DS had a great year in 2013... with dead momentum come 2014 and we saw how that ended up. Hopefully, Nintendo can maintain this rekindled momentum into 2015 with the continuing releases and interest from legs on Smash, YW2, MH4G, and Pokemon, and round-off the year with FF:Explorers. 2015 could see decent continuations from other titles like Xenoblade, STEAM, and third party support. The modularity and customization of the n3DS and themes might keep their revenue streams high as well.

The n3DS/3DS are in general in woeful need of AA-titles, but the system is absolutely packed with million-seller killer titles.

As per the rest... WiiU is floundering as expected with no software and bundles announced. Bad lead into the holidays but it should see a solid holiday from the bundle, Smash, and even Toad probably won't hurt. Nothing in December late, though, so I expect its momentum to die off in the latter end of the holiday. Hopefully the game/month schedule for 2015 can keep some momentum going.

PS4 is struggling to keep 7/9k (depending on tracker) but Evil Within should give it a bounce. I don't see it getting much higher after that as I don't know of much of any software launching in the holidays?

Everything else is dead.



estebxx said:
Mnementh said:
estebxx said:

makes me wonder what if Monster Hunter would have stayed on Playstation and Monster Hunter 4 G was a PS4 exclusive with a big budget...

men i always wanted to play Monster Hunter on the PS2 before it was even released (thanks to those previews on magazines) and i never got to, (couldnt find the game here in colombia), and now its a handheld only game and i hate handhelds i cant stand the small screen... hence why i bought a PSTV...

As MH3G hit the west it was ported to home-console. Maybe that happens with 4G too - hopefully. I prefer Monster Hunter on home console.

are you talking about MH3G for PS3? because to my knowledge it wasnt localized sadly, also glad to know that someone else also wants it on a proper console, and yeah lets hope 4G gets the same treatment some time in the future (and this time please localize it Capcom!).

3G was localized. I think you mix it up. In the West it was called Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, and got a home console port on WiiU:

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/62700/monster-hunter-tri/

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70955/monster-hunter-tri/



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estebxx said:
Kresnik said:
estebxx said:

are you talking about MH3G for PS3? because to my knowledge it wasnt localized sadly, also glad to know that someone else also wants it on a proper console, and yeah lets hope 4G gets the same treatment some time in the future (and this time please localize it Capcom!).


He's talking about Tri Ultimate for WiiU.


Ah ok, thats good as well, i just got confused since i was talking about sony, but a Wii U port is great as well, although what i really want is an MH thats made for consoles and that takes advantage of the hardware.

Taking advantage of power will not happen, the sales on home console are too low for that to justify the investment. I assume also on 3DS it isn't utilizing the full power, graphically Monster Hunter isn't revolutionary, I do like the gameplay.



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Other than 3DS, everything else is just disappointing.



Wow, PS4 over Wii U yet again, even PS3 outsold it in one of the trackers..



Blood_Tears said:
Wow, PS4 over Wii U yet again, even PS3 outsold it in one of the trackers..


a new Mario Kart bundle was announced last wednesday (Japan has yet to recieve a MK bundle) to be released on Nov 13 alongside Captian Toad, so Wii U sales likely will continue dropping for the next few weeks.



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Vena said:

Looking at the YoY is probably the wrong way to go about this analysis. Yes, the Vita will end up YoY but its going to end it with abysmal end-of-year momentum that will hurt it badly in the early 2015 year and beyond. Momentum loss is so much worse than YoY changes (unless they are drastic). The cannabilizing of sales by the 3DS is painful to witness.

Likewise, the 3DS had a great year in 2013... with dead momentum come 2014 and we saw how that ended up. Hopefully, Nintendo can maintain this rekindled momentum into 2015 with the continuing releases and interest from legs on Smash, YW2, MH4G, and Pokemon, and round-off the year with FF:Explorers. 2015 could see decent continuations from other titles like Xenoblade, STEAM, and third party support. The modularity and customization of the n3DS and themes might keep their revenue streams high as well.

The n3DS/3DS are in general in woeful need of AA-titles, but the system is absolutely packed with million-seller killer titles.


I understand the momentum argument, but momentum can be built and frittered away quite easily.  

Vita had momentum in early 2013 after the price cut, which was frittered away by the middle months of the year and then was built up again after the slim release.  They carried that on with at least some compelling software in Q1 and a particularly strong March and at least a couple of desirable games a month.  Momentum has been lost given that we're literally just waiting for November with Dengeki Bunko and Phantasy Star.

Does 3DS have a particularly strong Q1/Q2 to keep any of this momentum they've built up, or will they have to do it again from scratch?

A baseline should hold at least, because they've got long-term desirable software, but I'm not seeing anything to suggest that this isn't just going to be a nice spike to hardware (like an exaggerated version of what Vita had in early 2013) and then a fall back down to whatever levels it should be.  A mid-tier port and an untested IP aren't really going to change that.

 

As for the whole YoY thing though, it's mostly just for fun.  It was nice to see the system up over a dismal 2012 in 2013, and it's been nice to see it up again this year.  I realise it's lost momentum again, but it can build it back - sadly, not based on anything announced (by my reckoning, there's only 4 "big" games announced for next year - Persona; Senran Kagura; God Eater & Sword Art Online, plus a wild card in Kantai Collection.  But all the announced games are IP's already on the system).