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animegaming said:

true i could of word it better and i don't mind streaming services as long as they can co exist and at like as an alternative to phsycal media though mainly for TV Shows and movies espically for those i can't always buy every new movie or TV show season that comes ou on Blu Ray and DvD. i just don't see the point of streaming a game and espically get mad  when people say streaming games is the future and that physcal games and download games will die since playing a game is far different then just watching something that is why it annoys me so much when people say streaming is the future cause while this maybe true for Movies and TV Shows espically since Netflix is making their own original content like the Marvel Netflix shows. but this is basically the definiton becareful what you ask for.

I agree with you. I don't like the idea of a game streaming future but thats not cause I have any problem against streaming games but rather that I feel that the tech required and what is available to stream games will never be as good as what you can get from dedicated hardware. Right now its practically impossible to stream these games at 1080p@30fps. Much more streaming them in 4k@60fps. Nope, just don't see it working especially when you consider input lag.

I am fully in support of a game rental service though. I believe it will help the  industry as a whole. Though I feel sony could have structured the service better. They should make individual game rentals start form $2.99 per week. Gamers aren't gonna spend $60/$50 or even $30 on every single game out there. And a lot of smaller games suffer for this. But with a service like this you could rent a game for a week and its devs gets the money. Win win if you ask me. I sure as hell know if that were th ecase I would try out a lot more games.

Though you have to ask yourself, why don't they just give you an option to download the rented game in case you don't want to stream it.



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WagnerPaiva said:

Does it work on my Vita?

I think the price is way to high, it should be like 2,99 for a week at most.

No, 7 dollars a week is pretty typical for renting games. That's what they used to charge at Blockbuster, and also midwest video game store Vintage Stock. 



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outlawauron said:
animegaming said:
nope cause i refuse to not only pay for those prices to rent games i already own or can own for a much cheaper price then it is to rent it and also i outright boycott any service that forces me to have an always online connection to play single player games

Back in my day, I was ecstatic that I could pay $7/5 day rental of any game at my local blockbuster.

Well back in our day (I too grew up renting games at my local BB or other video store) there was more overhead and a limited supply of games available to rent so prices were naturally higher than a digital/streaming model should be. Besides, back in our day, individual games were more expensive anyways. Video game pricing just sucked compared to today. I don't wish a return to those days on anyone.

Sony needs to lower their prices before I would even think about using it which I most definitely want to for some of the classics that reside on PS Now.

Prices were the same at release (higher counting inflation) and the cost of servers and maintenance teams is comparable to the overhead of running a store. While I don't disagree that prices are too high for older games, renting is not meant to be a replacement. In fact, if they didn't have 30 or 90 day options, we wouldn't be having this conversation.



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Tachikoma said:
could buy the games on ebay for the price of a weeks rental.


I hate this argument against PS Now.  Show me where you can get a PS3, and the game, for the price of the rental.  When the service is officially live on intended platforms people will be able to load up PS Now on various Sony products (TVs, PS4, Vita, tablets, smartphones, etc)...


I know, right? it's like, you feel like playing a game at a friend's place and that friend doesn't have a ps3 and you're like

-gimme a sec, gonna order a ps3 and a game to play from ebay. It's gonna be here in a couple of days.

-Sweet!



I've only played Capcom Arcade Cabinet and it ran very well except for a few hiccups (which was expected as this was when PSNow had begun its Beta) but there really hasn't been much else until lately. I plan to rent Into The Nexus sometime this month to see if they have ironed out the bugs.



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animegaming said:
mornelithe said:
animegaming said:


but the guy said streaming is the future and in order to stream you would need a internet connection like what you were originally suppose to have for Xbox One games, and what you needed in order to play Diablo 3 on PC and what Ubisoft use to do with their PC games like AC2 was require an always online connection 

It's a non-sequitur.  Xbox One was never about streaming anything, it's was the online connection.  You don't own games you rent.  And PS Now's only requirement is that you be online...as you're playing it.  Then again, one would naturally assume such a thing, if you're streaming the game you're renting.


however though i brought up the xbox one was cause someone said streaming is the future which is DRM and the Xbox One was pretty much DRM put into the console and basically was asking so was Microsoft right about it and we shouldn't complained about it and same thing for the people who hated Sim City and Diablo 3 cause of the always online connection they shouldn't have a problem with it cause streaming is the future and like it or no streaming a game is basically the same thing blizarrd did with Diablo 3 and EA did with Sim City

Streaming is not about DRM any more than renting a physical disc is about DRM. When you buy a physical copy of a game outright, being prevented from passing the game around, or giving it away, or on-selling it, or trading it in is the DRM that got people pissed off. And the always online (or daily check in) was always about how MS would manage and control the DRM for disc based games, and of course kill the physical game rental market. None of those elements applies to a rental service via streaming.

Certain types of DRM are broadly accepted, including DRM on digitally distributed games. We've had DRM on digitally distributed games basically forever, and people have accepted that as a reality. Albeit from a moral perspective it is arguably no more justified than placing DRM on physical copies of games. In theory a digitally distributed game should be able to be transferred onto a portable device (like a memory stick) and wiped from the HDD of the console (i.e. not creating copies of the game, just transferring it from one device to another and be sold, or swapped or given away just like a disc, when the game is uploaded from the memory stick to the HDD of another console then the game is wiped from the memory stick. As long as a 2nd copy of a game is never created it should be possible to do this.

In this respect game renting via streaming is morally superior because at no point can any sense of ownership on the part of the gamer be claimed. It's a more pure commerical relationship than digital ownership. Similarly with PSN+ "free" games. These games are actually long term subscription based rentals, the difference being that they are downloaded rather than streamed. But the effect is that when you stop paying you stop playing, just like a rental. 



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jigokutamago said:
Kerotan said:
Neodegenerate said:
outlawauron said:

Back in my day, I was ecstatic that I could pay $7/5 day rental of any game at my local blockbuster.


These young whippersnappers have it far too easy I say.


I have to agree. The prices are fine. You'd pay the same money for a Burger King meal as you would to rent a game for a week. Can't wait for MGS4 to come on it. That will be my 1st PS Now game. 

But gamestop is telling me it's $5 used.


i can download all my music for free from the internet. Instead I buy it from shops sometimes and mostly buy it online. I like to support the game developers and publishers. Without people like me the scroungers who buy everything cheap and used wouldn't have any games to buy. Thankfully at least half the market is like me and the gentleman above. 



I think PS Now is a great idea, just some people don't understand it isn't exactly intended for them. Though I wonder would be able to sell it successfully to the intended target.



Imnus said:
I think PS Now is a great idea, just some people don't understand it isn't exactly intended for them. Though I wonder would be able to sell it successfully to the intended target.

The former is absolutely clear by some of the responses in this thread, the latter is exactly what I'm curious about.



I was VERY sceptical of the service, especially for quick action games like the god of war or darksiders series...

So late one night Imrented God of war acenscion and was pleasantly surprised with both the image quality and responsivness, neither was disastrous... I breezed through bosses and the qte events no problem ! 

so, it's not perfect, but this is an option that could prove very interesting for a lot of people.